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[-] yesman@lemmy.world 97 points 1 year ago

This is why the right are called reactionaries. This guy doesn't wanna make music. He wants to oppose the left.

That is the ideology. There is no through line in conservative thought besides opposition to emancipotory movements. Small government, abortion, guns, religion, tradition, and the family are not values, but ramparts and trenches in the war with the left.

[-] negativenull@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

"they don't want to win, they just want you to lose"

[-] Sylvartas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 year ago

Best summary of reactionary ideologies

[-] LeninOnAPrayer@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Agreed. Those "values" they pretend to uphold are not the core of the beliefs though. The core of it is white supremacy and patriarchy. Capitalism and Liberal democracy do a good job of maintaining and masking these ideologies. The gial is maintaining those hierarchies. Literally supporting the machine.

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[-] mannycalavera@feddit.uk 55 points 1 year ago

Can't wait to see their set with such time honoured bangers as

  • Know Your Neighbour
  • Suburban Rebellion
  • Go To Sleep
  • Tarrifs In The Name Of
  • Convicted Fellons On Parade
  • People Of The Mar-a-Lago
  • RussiaNow
  • Freedom Radio
  • Preach
  • New Boomer Homes

And many many more.

[-] Redfox8@mander.xyz 20 points 1 year ago

Killing in the Name will still be titled the same but with different lyrics "Thank you, I'll do what you tell me!"

[-] ZeffSyde@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

'Some of those who burn crosses, get bonuses from bosses!'

[-] BigBrainBrett2517@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Great stuff. New Boomer Homes pairing seamlessly with Voice of the Most Vocal.

[-] King3d@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Nazis on Parade

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[-] Lasherz12@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I've noticed every conservative song can't quite keep their lack of skills for symbolism for the whole song. The closest they ever came was the dude singing about the rich men north of richmond, but even then, he had to shit on poor people in poor health. Truly a man of the people.

[-] Adulated_Aspersion@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

That song isn't written from the perspective you think it is. Oliver Anthony came out staunchly against the hard right who tried to take his song as a rallying cry against welfare recipients.

He is saying that we are misappropriating funds that could supply healthy foods to more people. Instead, some are abusing the system to become more unhealthy. The reason thst they get this unhealthy food is (from the song's perspective) because the country doesn't do anything to support mental health and this is their chosen outlet.

"Lord we've got folks in the street who aint got nothing to eat And the obese milkin' welfare If your five foot three and three hundred pounds Taxes ought to not pay for your bags of fudge rounds Young men are putting themselves 6 feet in the ground Because all this damn country does is keep kicking them down"

[-] Lasherz12@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

I am very dubious of Oliver Anthony's attempts to retcon his words. If he didn't come out and try to gaslight us into thinking it's about how government food stamps aren't enough to eat healthy or pigeonholing mental health in there then I'd be more amicable to his childish over simplifications and both-sidisms. It's fine if you don't know about politics, but when you lie about your lyrics, your narratives inherently take on new meanings. The lyrics were not symbolic enough to be misinterpreted. He said the government ought not pay for your unhealthy food choices... He meandered about other bullshit in the lyrics, but I guess he forgot to mention the actual thing he was talking about.

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[-] yesman@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

IDK what this dude has in his heart, but he thinks about wealth, power, and corruption geographically. I can't say he is a confederate, but I can say he thinks like one.

[-] shalafi@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

He's singing about lived experience in the South. Did you expect him to address the whole nation or globe? As Stephen King often says, write about what you know.

[-] Adulated_Aspersion@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Replying to my own reply.

“I mean, we are the melting pot of the world, and that’s what makes us strong, is our diversity, and we need to learn to harness that and appreciate it, and not use it as a political tool to keep everyone separate from each other you know?”

[-] Jaderick@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I’m curious what other conservative songs are out there. I’m trying to think of a banger that’s even remotely conservative/political but I’m coming up blank.

[-] tresspass@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Not that any of it is a banger, but kid rock and lil pump come to mind.

As they might be giants put it: "The Fascists have the outfits But I don’t care for the outfits What I care about is music And the Communists have the music"

[-] Jaderick@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I see, yeah I don’t listen to dipshit rock and I don’t think I’ve heard of lil pump.

Maybe I was the wrong person to ask that question lmao.

[-] Lasherz12@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

You could argue "Brought to your courtesy of the red white and blue" song after 911 was conservative. It's still devoid of symbolism except for patriotic slop everyone understands

[-] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 5 points 1 year ago

There was a list floating around (before Trump) of songs that, with sufficiently motivated reasoning, could be claimed for conservatism. I don’t remember the entirety of it, but I recall The Beatles’ “Taxman”, and the reasoning that taxes are bad, being a representative example.

[-] taiyang@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Ah yes, famed conservative musician George Harrison wrote that song. /s lol

[-] glimse@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Tom McDonald (?) is an awful rightwing rapper. No bangers to be found but he's got a lot of songs (and I recommend none of them)

[-] GraniteM@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

There's this compilation of songs from the Cold War that are all about nuclear paranoia and anti-Communist fervor, and there are a few bangers in there, like Mr. Krushchev. More recent than 60+ years old? You got me.

[-] JamesBoeing737MAX@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

Alabama ni?

[-] TommySoda@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

The fact that they'd want to make a "Rage Against the Machine" band based off of political views means they missed the idea of "Rage Against the Machine" entirely.

[-] thann@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 1 year ago

"Its like RATM but we're all bootlicking skinheads."

[-] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

"What 'machine' did you think they were raging against? A lawnmower?"

[-] myrmidex@slrpnk.net 9 points 1 year ago

Take the flower back!

No, it's definitely a printer. Go print off some RATM lyrics and tell me I'm wrong.

(How the heck was the library printer out of whack last time I went to use it? Those things used to be ridiculously reliable.)

[-] user1234@lemmynsfw.com 15 points 1 year ago

Band name: The Machine

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 12 points 1 year ago

Can't you see, you're not making the right better, you're just making rock and roll worse!

[-] hardcoreufo@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

That boy ain't right.

[-] scarabic@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

“what the left and globalists have done”

Am I crazy or have conservatives been harping on “free trade” my entire life?

[-] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Nobody on the right who understands anything says that shit in good faith

[-] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 9 points 1 year ago

Poe's Law strikes back

[-] taiyang@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I enjoy how much of a struggle everyone in the comments is having to think of a single decent conservative rock band, let alone one like RatM. If you understand people attracted to authortarianism, it makes sense; they prefer simple over nuanced, they tend to be more likely to conform, etc, it's quite obvious that their values run contrary to art.

That said, conservative rock bands do exist, even if their songs aren't. They just aren't generally artistic or thought provoking. Smash Mouth came to mind (they shilled for Bush back in the day) and All Star is still played on the radio. I'd bet if you dug around, you'd probably find more of those 90s pop rock folks orient right.

Although even trying to think of annoying 90s songs led me down a weird rabbit hole. Like, you know that song "Two Princes" by Spin Doctors? Turns out one Spin Doctor is a major atheist activist. So who knows?

[-] scbasteve7@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Smashmouth is an odd one. Cause their songs are oddly... libertarian? Maybe? But every now and then a pretty ignorant lyrics slips through and it's like "what's going on here?".

Walking on the sun is a pretty good one. Literally saying, "The government sucks, fight back, youve done it before and deserve praise for it.". And then the last verse is criticizing presumably black neighborhoods for falling into the crack epidemic.

[-] taiyang@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah, and I don't know where they stand now or if they were all on board with right wing. I know the lead died recently, though. Looking is up, he moved to Idaho, which is kind of what a lot of libertarian Californians do in retirement, lol.

[-] Soggy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Of note, they had already distanced themselves from Steve Harwell (lead vocal) for being a giant shithead and uncontrollable alcoholic.

[-] dechnically@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago

rage on behalf of the machine

[-] Snowclone@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I thought about rewriting a RATM song's lyrics to parody this dumb ass concept but then I remembered the only successful neo nazi songs are popular songs with rewritten lyrics to be racist and hateul, because they're all uncreative twat waffles. ___

[-] lennybird@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

"yeah hi I'm not conservative but I'm someone who also likes freedom! Not just freedom for me, but freedom for everyone, including those who don't look and act like me!"

These don't seem to undeestand. When you play the song of punk out, it sings that true freedom means solidarity, not conformity.

[-] the_q@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

Suck the machine's wingdangdoodle

Know any successful bands that are NAZIs? I can't think of any.

[-] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

Unfortunately a fair number of them in the metal scene, but there are ways you can discover if your fav is fasc.

Iced Earth :(

[-] Formfiller@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That’s “Rage for the Machine”

[-] hypeerror@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

This is Ethan Suplee singing in the van from the film American History X.

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