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After seven years of La Nina conditions, the surface temperature of the central and eastern tropical Pacific Ocean has warmed again, signalling the switch to a global El Nino event. Here is what Canadians can expect this El Nino winter.

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[–] emeralddawn45@discuss.tchncs.de 48 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Wait so our already warm and (relatively) snow less winters over the last few years are now gonna be even warmer and less snowy? Good thing global warming's not real and this is totally just a phase mother earth is going through or something.

[–] jadero@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I was talking to someone about what we do out here in the boonies all winter. One of the things I talked about was snowshoeing. While I was talking, I realized that it's been at least a decade since I've been able to snowshoe anywhere other than on the lake after it freezes. It's not that there is never any snow in the hills, but it never lasts long enough to matter.

[–] Steak@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm in north bay and went snowshoeing a bunch last year. And ice fishing.

[–] jadero@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

Shore of Lake Diefenbaker. Ice is plentiful. Snow, not so much. We get a decent amount, then the wind and sun strips it off the hills before the next snowfall.

[–] MrFlagg@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

our boonies must be different. i was 3 feet of snow deep in the bush just north of Muskoka all last winter. that storm at Christmas was brutal.

[–] Kichae@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago

Wild. We just had 4 months of November last year. And none of those months were actually November

[–] jadero@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

Heh, yeah. Shore of Lake Diefenbaker in SK.

[–] je_suis_un_ananas@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago

I remember when there were outdoor skating rinks in parks commonly in southern Ontario as a kid. Now you rarely see them because they would melt every 2 days. Any yet my relatives still don't believe in climate change πŸ™„

[–] RagingNerdoholic@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Where is that? We had a metric fuckton of snow and cold last winter in Manshitoba. I'm not denying climate change, just saying that last winter was painfully typical.

[–] emeralddawn45@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I mean I heard Winnipeg is a frozen Shithole from a very reputable source so that tracks. In ontario though winter basically stopped existing 10 years ago.

[–] LoganNineFingers@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Frozen? Yes

Shithole? Absolutely not!

[–] grte@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It's a reference to this album. From a patriotic Winnipegger.

[–] LoganNineFingers@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

Thank you for clarifying! I had no idea

[–] Rocket@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

That Ontario (southern Ontario, no less) blizzard last winter season sure seemed like winter. Is that summertime weather to you?

[–] Smatt@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

Lol weather vs climate. The meteorologist in the article explains quite a bit about it if you are actually curious.

[–] emeralddawn45@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Two days of snow sure doesn't seem like the winter I remember. In the winter I remember you'd have 4 or 5 big snows like that and the snow would stick around for the rest of the season. Now if you don't rush out to build your snowman the next day, your chance is gone.

[–] Rocket@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

In the winter I remember you’d have 4 or 5 big snows like that and the snow would stick around for the rest of the season.

No time since at least 1990 was that ever consistently true. There have been a lot of years since then without much snow. 1998 is famously the year that winter forgot. It may go back even further, but I'm too young to have the appropriate memories.

It is definitely true that some years are like that, but even 2021 was like that. If you recall, snow-time activities were all the rage that year because we had consistent snow cover throughout the winter and everyone was otherwise stuck at home because of COVID giving reason to get out and enjoy the snow.

[–] LeafTheTreesAlone@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

It’s not much to describe winter as β€œthat one blizzard”.

[–] streetfestival@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

In ontario though winter basically stopped existing 10 years ago.

This aligns with my experience of winter in Toronto. Last year, iirc, we had one week that was absurdly cold, maybe 2 or 3 snow falls that were more than a few cm, and otherwise it was a low-precipitation 4.5 months of about -4 Celsius. Winter was more of an event in Toronto 20 years ago when I was a kid. Snowstorms that grinded the city to a halt weren't uncommon. Maybe this is hindsight bias, and I should look at some data to verify it.

That said, it's clear from others' posts that winter is different in other places in Canada - without going too far either, like Muskoka or Ottawa

[–] Angry_Maple@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

What part of Ontario are you talking about? Did you not get any of the ice storms last year? Ottawa was hit with 38.mm of freezing rain just back in April.

IIRC a lot of people were stuck at home around the holidays, too. At some points the snow was blinding. I agree that there is less snow overall through. It's sad to see.

[–] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I clear snow in Winnipeg and we definitely didn't have a shit ton of snow last year. In fact I only had 40 hours of work between Jan 1 and the end of April.

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago

Just because warmer temperatures may be occurring, it doesn't necessarily lead to an easier winter," Smith said.

Thanks for being such a Debby Downer, Smith!