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I see a lot of people, including friends and family, sharing URLs rife with tracking parameters.

I feel alone in making sure that I'm sharing the cleanest possible URLs to others. For example, checking if the URLs are shortened to hide plenty of tracking params.

Just need to vent, thanks for reading.

Edit: adding some context for future references.

By using url tracking params, tech companies can track who shares the content and who clicks on that specific shared urls. A simple but effective tracking method.

Try sharing Instagram post or YouTube video from the apps.

Instagram adds 'igshid=' . YouTube adds 'si='.

If you share the same IG or YouTube content from different accounts. The 'igshid', 'si' value will be different.

This can be used to tag who shares it, and who clicks on that specific url param value.

TikTok hides a ton of such params behind shortened url. Try expanding tiktok shared urls.

If you use android, use this app to expand, analyze and clean up urls https://github.com/TrianguloY/UrlChecker

If you use Firefox (you should), install ublock origin and add this url tracking filter maintained by adguard: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/AdguardTeam/FiltersRegistry/master/filters/filter_17_TrackParam/filter.txt

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[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 281 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Friends and family don't know what cleaning a URL means. Nobody does.

[–] StereoTrespasser@lemmy.world 100 points 1 year ago (32 children)

And ironic that OP doesn't share how to clean them.

[–] IronKrill@lemmy.ca 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Because it's different for every website.

[–] CoderKat@lemm.ee 16 points 1 year ago

There's a lot of common patterns, but you have to understand how URLs work. You have to recognize which URL parameters are tracking ones or even just might be tracking. And that means you have to know how they work and that takes a moment.

In brief, URL parameters start after a ? in the URL and are formatted like key1=values&key2=value2. You can't usually remove all parameters because not all are tracking. To further complicate things, URLs can also have an anchor starting with a # character which will be after the URL parameters. You often don't want to remove that (though theoretically the anchor could in fact contain tracking details).

It's often trial and error to see which parameters you can remove. I do this a lot since I write a lot of technical documentation. Clean URLs make the documentation more compact and less likely to break. It's not just tracking stuff, but sometimes you need to remove temporal data that makes a page display data from a specific time when you want it to just default to the current time (etc).

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[–] AlexWIWA@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

On YouTube links, delete anything after the ?

Someone post the next website

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 37 points 1 year ago (7 children)

That's terrible advice, you'd just be left with

https://youtube.com/watch

You need the "?v=" and the jumble of letters immediately after.

For example: https://youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ

[–] VonReposti@feddit.dk 20 points 1 year ago

XcQ, link stays blue

[–] PipedLinkBot@feddit.rocks 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Here is an alternative Piped link(s):

https://piped.video/watch

https://piped.video/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ

Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.

I'm open-source; check me out at GitHub.

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[–] tomatocake@feddit.de 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They're talking about the query param that gets added when using the Share button: https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ?si=dwX01vG-EivlOoYe - the ?si=... should be removed.

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[–] mo_ztt@lemmy.world 55 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I had someone watch me edit a URL in the address bar and she clearly thought I was just fucking around, because there was no possible way that any human could edit the Matrix language up there and accomplish anything productive.

[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 35 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

That's part of my point. Most people just don't know.
That's like telling someone to just tune their carburator.

[–] pixelscript@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

inb4 you get an indignant reply suggesting that carburetor tuning is a must-have skill for absolutely anyone who owns anything that has one

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[–] Yearly1845@reddthat.com 14 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I mean carburetor tuning is a must-have skill for absolutely anyone who has one. Otherwise you can never be sure that you are getting an ideal fuel-air mixture, and the ratio changes over time with the temperature, humidity, seasons, etc. Really, it's irresponsible to not know how to do this if you have a car with a carburetor.

[–] Damage@slrpnk.net 9 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Brake line bleeding is a must-have skill for anyone with brakes. Otherwise you can never be sure not to have air in the brake lines. Really it's irresponsible not to know how to do this if you have a vehicle with idraulic brakes.

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[–] otl@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 1 year ago

They don't necessarily need to; hopefully we can help people install uBlock Origin which removes tracking query parameters from URLs. See privacy.txt

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[–] otl@lemmy.sdf.org 98 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Thankfully uBlock Origin removes those parameters for us. The default filters include a whole bunch of removeparam filters; e.g. privacy.txt See also removeparam.

Maybe you could help your friends and family install Firefox and/or uBlock Origin? Every little bit helps :)

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[–] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 49 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

To be honest 99% of people, certainly including me, probably don't recognize tracking elements in a URL unless they're like affiliate links.

[–] EddoWagt@feddit.nl 12 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Pretty much all junk which isn't human readable is tracking info

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[–] Gsus4@feddit.nl 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If people were really good at removing that info, they'd probably create a unique hash including all that data that we wouldn't be able to edit.

[–] gothicdecadence@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean, I've seen companies start shortening links with the tracking info inside it. Amazon and Spotify are ones I see frequently

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[–] streetfestival@lemmy.ca 41 points 1 year ago

Phones and chrome are designed to prevent people from noticing that they're being tracked and helping big tech track others

[–] over_clox@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Indeed. I use Léon on Android, very straightforward, open source, and easy to install and configure...

https://github.com/svenjacobs/leon

[–] narwhal@lemmy.ml 25 points 1 year ago (4 children)
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[–] randint@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 29 points 1 year ago

Agreed. Recently youtube started adding tracking parameters (?si=) to their share links. I always clean them up.

[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 27 points 1 year ago

This would be a good feature add to Lemmy. Clean pre-post.

[–] Mandy@sh.itjust.works 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

People barely know what a browser is, you cant expect them to know what an url is, let alone what clearing it is

[–] HidingCat@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

People generally don't care (I myself am not at the level of this community). It also involves enough technical know-how that most people won't care. It's like asking people to use a CLI, not going to happen. I'm pretty sure I'm one of the few people who still C&P URLs to share, most people hit a "Share" button.

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[–] variants@possumpat.io 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah I always mention it when people send a link with all the extra stuff, how you can usually delete everything past the question mark

[–] narwhal@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Some apps are hiding it behind shortened URLs. So it looks clean, but if you expand it, then oh boy.

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[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
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[–] CCPIsBased@thelemmy.club 15 points 1 year ago

I wish websites would clean their URLs

[–] Saff@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Interesting, I never really thought about this before. I wonder if there’s a clipboard manager that does this automatically?

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[–] Clbull@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

The OCD part of me really wants to clean up those URLs simply because the link becomes a massive novella of garbage that's harder to read than Yu-Gi-Oh card text.

[–] FrostyCaveman@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago

I thought I was alone in my windmill-tilting on this one! Nice to see there are others who clean URLs of unnecessary querystring parameters

[–] shortwavesurfer@monero.town 12 points 1 year ago

I try to do it. Mainly i see a lot of ?utm_source shit and kill it.

[–] Kushan@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I do this because I hate super long URL's, but is this actually a problem for privacy? Does it not actually fuck with the tracking because now two separate people have got the same tracking Params? (Genuine question).

[–] DrM@feddit.de 27 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Nope. It's a nightmare. The ad company now knows that you are friends or family

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[–] netchami@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

On Android, LinkSheet supports cleaning URLs. It's an awesome tool in general.

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[–] Rengoku@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago

Filter cleaner should be built into the browser.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

I always remove anything after /ref= from an Amazon link before I forward it to my wife (she has the account and does the orders).

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