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This is a very low-information announcement here but if this is taken to the extreme, it means that DuckDuckGo, Qwant, and many other so-called "alternative" search engines are going to either have to look for a new provider of results, or die.

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[–] FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 51 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wonder what their reason for this is.

[–] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 82 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Libra@lemmy.ml 23 points 1 year ago

Something something money.

AI is just the latest hype train they're hopping in the hopes of making more money.

[–] Lojcs@lemm.ee 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/updates?id=492574

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/bing/apis/pricing

So all tiers are getting discontinued.. Unless there is an unlisted custom tier? It's hard to imagine duckducgo only processing 250 requests per second. But then maybe that is enough and didn't they make their own index anyways? Maybe that was to ease the load

Oh and they suggest using ai instead

[–] noodlejetski@lemm.ee 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

DuckDuckGo, Startpage, Qwant, Ecosia... the last two have been working together to make their own index, hopefully it's going to be usable by then.

[–] Sixtyforce@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 year ago

I hope so, I don't trust MAGA owned Brave.

[–] Libra@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Shiiit, I really don't want to go back to Google and all their sponsored/AI/tracking bullshit. Any other privacy-focused search engines out there that don't rely on this?

[–] mooncake@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago

American company though. Not supporting that

[–] Libra@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Yeah I'm far too used to getting my search for free to pay for it. I'll fuckin' use chatgpt before I pay a subscription fee for that shit, even if it is a substantially better option.

[–] gradual@lemmings.world 8 points 1 year ago

Look at you having standards.

[–] mooncake@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That's what I said before I used it, you can try it free for 30 days

[–] Libra@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I looked at it briefly, the only free option I saw was 100 free searches, which will not last your average user anywhere near 30 days. Shit that might not last me 3 days depending on what I'm doing.

[–] baguettefish@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think you overestimate the average user

[–] Libra@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

3 searches a day? Most people probably clear that just satisfying idle curiosity while sitting on the damned toilet.

[–] gradual@lemmings.world -1 points 1 year ago

This is why tech communities suck.

Too many shills and useful idiots trying to viral market bullshit.

[–] MonkeyBrawler@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Answers still Kagi. You get use of the basic tiers for all the big ai services.

You ever wanted to blacklist Quora from search results? You can do that too.

[–] Libra@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not unless you have some way to get me a free lifetime membership, cause I've already made it pretty clear I'm not paying for it, and it wouldn't even let me use it without making an account when I checked it out.

[–] MonkeyBrawler@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah buddy, i have answers i don't like too. Sucks sometimes.

[–] Libra@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

It's less that I'm unhappy with the answer and more that I'm confused about why you would give an answer that I've already said I won't use. But if screaming into the void is your jam then you do you.

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

Shiiit, I really don't want to go back to Google and all their sponsored/AI/tracking bullshit.

I can tell you with confidence that I simply just won't.

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[–] gradual@lemmings.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Wiz@midwest.social 2 points 1 year ago

That anonymizes Google results. It's Google, all the way down.

[–] toastmeister@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You think Microsoft gives you privacy?

They make billions on targeted ad revenue.

[–] Libra@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago

No, I use duckduckgo which is powered by Bing's API. Hence why I said other privacy-focused search engine.

[–] philpo@feddit.org 2 points 1 year ago

Mullvad Leta is at least google minus the tracking.

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[–] hamsterkill@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 year ago

Thurott's article on this implies that "big customers like DDG will be unaffected". Though he also says information is scarce.

[–] MITM0@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

So..... let's see what we can work with→

  1. Swisscows
  2. Mojeek
  3. Gibiru
  4. PriEco
  5. Wiby

I have no clue TBH, but there needs to be a community-funded initiative to have a (De)Centralized repository of search-indices

[–] PrivacyDingus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Swisscows I don't believe has an index, Mojeek does.

[–] MITM0@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I've heard that Swisscows does, although you won't find any 18+ stuff.

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