‘We can’t confuse Hamas with all Palestinians’: Spain says amid aid review : worldnews

[-] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 260 points 2 years ago

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[-] zerfuffle@lemmy.ml 119 points 2 years ago

Really makes you think about why Hamas is so radicalized, doesn't it? It's not like you can pull a Muslim out of a hat and radicalize them. People in a stable, healthy, and fair socioeconomic position do not see violence as an answer. People who live under constant oppression, inequality, and fear do.

[-] drolex@sopuli.xyz 94 points 2 years ago

And the irony is that Israel allowed Hamas to be funded by Arabic countries 25 years ago when it was a way to weaken Arafat and the PLO. Everything in this area is fucked beyond parody. No authority on either side has any idea about morality.

[-] TWeaK@lemm.ee 39 points 2 years ago

Netanyahu actually said something very similar, that the best way to destabilise the Palestinian Authority was to finance Hamas.

[-] AdmiralShat@programming.dev 39 points 2 years ago

The same parallels with how the US funded what would later become Al Qaeda to fuck with the Soviets. Then they did 9/11.

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[-] pingveno@lemmy.ml 167 points 2 years ago

It's been 17 years since the last election. Assuming only 18 and up could vote, that means only people current around 34 and up could vote. So the bulk of Palestinians didn't even have a chance to vote in that election. Not to mention that they were given the choice between a corrupt faction (Fatah) and a possible less corrupt faction (Hamas).

[-] AdamHenry@discuss.tchncs.de 46 points 2 years ago

I am so afraid this message is getting lost. There has been a deliberate push to paint this latest incident to be the reason that neighborhoods had to be flattened and civilians slaughtered.

[-] davepleasebehave@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago

why can't they hold elections?

[-] fosforus@sopuli.xyz 16 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

They can. They won't.

Either they're just undemocratic, or they know that the results of elections wouldn't be what they want them to be.

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[-] tegs_terry@feddit.uk 76 points 2 years ago

Here here. At least somebody has some fucking balls. Perhaps because it's not a mess they created.

[-] madcaesar@lemmy.world 33 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Hear, hear, not here, here.

[-] tegs_terry@feddit.uk 35 points 2 years ago

Quite write, my mistake.

[-] ohitsbreadley@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 2 years ago

...my mistake.

I think you meant "missed steak."

[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 56 points 2 years ago

Go Spain.

[-] Rolder@reddthat.com 31 points 2 years ago

Haven’t surveys shown that a majority of Palestinians support Hamas?

[-] Auli@lemmy.ca 67 points 2 years ago

Sure but you try being killed and kicked out of your homes. I'm sure you would not like the people who are doing it either. Israel has created this mess.

[-] SasquatchBanana@lemmy.world 46 points 2 years ago

People forget Israel is the one with the power and creating this issue. If Israel actually backs off and treats Palestine as at least human, then I think (and hope) most people will see that Hamas needs to be destroyed as they are a terrorist group.

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[-] desconectado@lemm.ee 25 points 2 years ago

I mean if you live in a country controlled by a terrorist group that kills anyone who is not their side, and someone goes to your door and asks if you support them... What would you say?

It's easy to dismiss this issue by thinking they have the same freedom of speech as we do in the west, and they can have political opinions without any repercussion.

Same can be said about north Korea.

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[-] wick@lemm.ee 24 points 2 years ago

Is Spain offering asylum to Palestinians? Because that's the only thing that will help those people.

[-] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 2 years ago

They have to be able to leave Gaza in order to receive asylum.

Gaza is pretty much an open air prison that you can't really leave all that easily.

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