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A Boring Dystopia

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[–] VirgilMastercard@reddthat.com 180 points 1 year ago (3 children)

What's with the replies asking why she's not carrying ID in NYC? Is there some reason why you need to have ID on you at all times on New York?

[–] flandish@lemmy.world 150 points 1 year ago

the reason is that the people asking are fascist asses. there is no legit reason to “need” an ID in any american place when out like this woman was.

[–] KingPorkChop@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 year ago

ID is like meth to these pigs.

[–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's actually a law in certain states. In California you need an ID even for the officer with a bicycle infraction. This is New York though and I don't know the particulars of the municipality.

[–] Vandals_handle@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

California does not require a cyclist to present an ID to an officer when being cited for a traffic offense. However if they choose, an officer may arrest and hold you to verify your identity. Same is true with pedestrians.

[–] Omega@lemmy.blahaj.zone 105 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Okay, so smiling is bad. What the fuck is the solution to not look suspicious to cops at this point? Making eye contact is suspicious, but not making eye contact is also suspicious. So what, are we supposed to Sneak 100 past them when we see them from afar now? Is that it?

At which point does a society realizes that maybe we have an issue when people are actively trying to avoid cops even though they are not doing anything that is against the laws? How many people need to be detained over nothing? How many people need to be brutalized with no consequences to their blue aggressors? How many people need to be killed by the "finest"?

I treat cops like a rogue militia. I avoid them when I can, and otherwise, I feel the need to watch my every step because they are completely unpredictable. And for fuck's sake, I'm white! Needless to say, cops are much less on the lookout for me. When I hear the stories of people from different ethnicities, it's fucking terrifying.

But hey, gotta protect the rich somehow, I guess.

[–] destructdisc@lemmy.world 50 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As it turns out, avoiding the cops -- or even looking like you're avoiding the cops -- will also land you in hot water

[–] Omega@lemmy.blahaj.zone 49 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Okay, so do not exist at all in the presence of cops. Somehow. Got it.

[–] painfulasterisk1@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 year ago

If they kill you, technically you don't exist anymore.

Honestly, how fragile and weak you have to be to be triggered by being looked at. If they are that scared, they should remove their eyeballs.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Oops there's cops everywhere, guess the winning play is to not exist in the first place

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 year ago

Okay, so smiling is bad. What the fuck is the solution to not look suspicious to cops at this point?

There's an episode from the Twilight Zone reboot (S1E3, "Replay") that plays with this idea in an interesting way. A black mother and son are at a diner with a police officer, and things happen and her son gets shot. But then she discovers that she has this magic camcorder that can rewind time, so she goes back to the diner and tries again, doing things differently. And this time he gets shot for a different reason. So she goes back, again and again, trying different approaches.

It really captures the feeling of insecurity, of being damned if you do, damned if you don't. And it's sort of a metaphor for the different scenarios playing out in one's head, of trying to think of how each action might be misinterpreted or go wrong.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] Omega@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago

Urgh... yes ~~honey~~ officer...

[–] arin@lemmy.world 75 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

fucking insane. So many NYPD patrol vehicles and personnel to stop a lady on her bike in the bike lane. What the fuck?

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

its mob mentality, they wont do it alone.

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[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 62 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

What's really shocking is that a woman detained in the US for not having ID wasn't delivered to ICE immediatelly and deported to El Salvador without due process.

I mean, the whole point of not having due process is that if a person can't right then and there prove they're not an illegal immigrant they can just treat that person as an illegal immigrant and "dissapear" that person for it with no recourse.

[–] unprovenbreeze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 39 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Its' strange that they let her keep her phone in that tiny cell. In any case, they are all very brave when the offender is a 55kg young girl.

[–] Sciaphobia@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 year ago

Were they brave though? Even then they didn't have the stones to approach her without backup, apparently.

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[–] flandish@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

remember folks: brutality is a method employed by “democracies” under capitalism.

[–] pixelkitty@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

Papers, please 🫴

[–] zqwzzle@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 year ago

TBF you’d have to be truly mentally unwell to be smiling in these times. /s

[–] SnarkoPolo@lemm.ee 17 points 1 year ago
[–] roguetrick@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Psychopaths who habitually escalate because you don't give them enough "respect," but I do stop for anybody with lights on even if I'm in a bike lane. Mostly because I don't want to get hit by an idiot cop or sleep deprived emt or some other car deciding the bike lane is where they want to go to yield for the emergency vehicle.

[–] TheThrillOfTime@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Never once had a positive interaction with a cop.

[–] destructdisc@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

That's because, and all together now...

All Cops Are Bastards

[–] flandish@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Makes sense. (I believe you!) They do not exist for positive reasons.

[–] Jimmycakes@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Never make eye contact with police everybody knows the rules

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Same rules as dealing with wolves.

No eye contact.

No smiling.

No sudden moves.

No sandwiches.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago
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[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

That's actually a popular misconception. Your goal is fo come off as docile, comfortable, and most importantly neurotypical. They think avoiding eye contact is evidence of a crime. If they think you're scared they'll give you something to be scared of.

After all, only bad guys are scared of our heroic cops. /s

[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 7 points 1 year ago

SDPD, SPD, OPD, LAPD: you mean they didn't shoot first? How does that even work?

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