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Discovered recently that Electric Wizard were kinda dicks back in the day. "At the time, we were pretty bad people. I got arrested for arson of a car, outside a police station. Tim [Bagshaw] went to nick a crucifix off a church roof so we could use it onstage..."

R. L. Burnside killed a man "possibly at a craps game."

Varg of ~~Mayhem~~ Burzum burned a couple churches and killed a bandmate.

I could list other examples, but would like to hear from other people and other music genres.

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[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 150 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Weird Al Yankovic is... really just an all around awesome person and probably won't show up anywhere on this thread.

[–] InputZero@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I dunno, him and Coolio had some beef in the 90s. When Weird Al parodied Coolio's Gangsters Paradise with his Amish Paradise Weird Al didn't do so with the consent of Coolio. Gangsters paradise was a deeply personal song to Coolio so he was understandably upset. As a direct parody it was protected under fair use but Weird Al didn't feel right about it. So he reached out to Coolio, apologized and ever since then Weird Al has gotten the artist approval to parody their work despite the fact he doesn't need to. Coolio did eventually come around and agree it was a pretty funny parody. Plot twist, (not really) that's how humble Weird Al is, he didn't do anything legally wrong and yet he still recognized he could do better.

[–] Nollij@sopuli.xyz 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

That was all from a miscommunication- Al had his people reach out to Coolio's people, and somehow wires got crossed. Al created it with the belief that he had Coolio's blessing. Al has always asked permission, and a number of artists/songs have not been done because they would not grant permission. Examples include Paul McCartney (Live and Let Die/Chicken Pot Pie, because of his strict vegetarianism), Michael Jackson (Black or White, because he felt the message was too important), and everything by Prince.

While it's never been tested in court, most of these parodies probably count as derivative works (i.e. permission is required) rather than protected fair use. A notable exception might be Smells Like Nirvana, since it was used to mock the original creator.

Edit: spelling

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weird al's toxic trait is that he lost on jeopardy and hates bernie (he just wanted to see the twine ball!)

[–] pepsison52895@lemmy.one 16 points 1 year ago

Don't scare me like that!

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[–] ME5SENGER_24@lemm.ee 118 points 1 year ago (3 children)

So, I’m the moderator of !ClassicRock…how do you want me to start the list? Chronologically, quantity, severity??

[–] MortyMcFry@aussie.zone 68 points 1 year ago

Severity Top 5

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

How about in order of "Most Pedophilic" to "Least Pedophilic". I'm aware that this list will be pretty top-heavy

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[–] luthis 15 points 1 year ago

Yeah let's go by severity

[–] zero_gravitas@aussie.zone 68 points 1 year ago (5 children)
[–] can@sh.itjust.works 76 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Corngood@lemmy.ml 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Passenger boat Chicago's Little Lady was hosting the 1 p.m. Chicago Architecture Foundation tour of the Chicago River.

all passengers were issued refunds.

The boat's deck was swabbed by its crew, and service was resumed for its scheduled 3 p.m. tour.

This boat crew is the most metal thing in this entire post.

[–] datavoid@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

What probably happened is that the boat absolutely stank, and they decided not to tell the people at 3pm what had transpired

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[–] LetKCater2U@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 year ago

On August 8, 2004, a tour bus belonging to the Dave Matthews Band dumped an estimated 800 pounds (360 kg) of human waste from the bus's blackwater tank through the Kinzie Street Bridge in Chicago onto a passenger sightseeing boat sailing in the Chicago River below.

800 pounds?! How?!?!?!

[–] luthis 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] cbarrick@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago
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[–] ChucklesMacLeroy@lemmy.world 57 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Came in here to mention how much a of a dick Maynard was to a seamstress friend of mine. It was an hour or so before showtime and she had the audacity to replace the button on his vintage leather Cavaricci pants with one that wasn't an actual Cavaricci button. He treated her like a foolish peasant that should have been more prepared to deal with an elite. Seems kinda light considering the other posts, but anytime I can call him out for being a dick, I'mma do it.

Edit: a letter.

[–] dmention7@lemm.ee 17 points 1 year ago

Yeah I am a bug fan of his music, but I can 100% see Maynard being a bit of a dickish prima donna. I guess they can't all be real ones 😞

[–] luthis 14 points 1 year ago

Tool were my favourite band for many years. Actually not surprised Maynard is a dick, too much fame.

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[–] dandroid@dandroid.app 47 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I used to love Avenged Sevenfold back in like 2005/2006. They used to fly confederate flags at their concerts, and even had custom guitars with the confederate flag panted on them. Back then I didn't understand the significance of that, but that's really fucked.

At least they have apologized for it and said they regret doing it. I believe people are capable of learning from their mistakes, but tbh, I haven't kept up with them so I'm not sure if they have truly become better people than they were back then.

[–] MrVilliam@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I never knew that about them. I casually enjoyed a few songs here and there when I heard them and thought they were good but not really my genre of choice. I really respect that they apologized and changed behavior. As somebody in my mid 30s and was therefore mid teens 20 years ago, I also was unaware of the hurt and hate involved with things I saw and said and did at the time. But you're right, it's important to be capable of learning and growing and changing behavior and apologizing for the damage done. We all make mistakes, and to pretend otherwise and deny ones own mistakes is a sign of immaturity and responsibility.

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[–] Terevos@lemm.ee 45 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Wasn't one of my favorite bands, but Iistened to them regularly.

Lead singer of As I Lay Dying hired someone to kill his wife. (Guy he hired was actually a cop, so he went to prison)

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[–] Chozo@kbin.social 42 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

I grew up on a lot of metal bands, including Iced Earth. Absolutely loved them, even saw them open for Megadeth as a kid.

Then Jon Schaffer went and proudly participated in the Jan 6 attack, so now it's kinda hard to listen to their music anymore.

Also hard to listen to Megadeth these days, too. Partly because they stopped being good after Risk, but also partly because Dave Mustaine turned into a born-again Christian nutjob.

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[–] aceshigh@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Was a big fan of eric Clapton but I learned later in that he’s racist so now his music leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I regret seeing him instead of Chris Cornell. I was sure clapton would go before Cornell :(((

[–] Boldizzle@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Knowing he's a racist makes it interesting that he made a living off of playing music invented by black people. Also makes it even sweeter that Hendrix destroyed him on stage while jamming with Cream.

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[–] funbreaker@lemmy.blahaj.zone 32 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Back when I was a teenager I loved Lostprophets. I didnβ€˜t hear about Ian Watkins becoming one of the worst people in Wales until a few years after they disbanded.

Crystal Castles is also pain listening to nowadays with Alice and Ethan.

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[–] Rocky60@lemm.ee 28 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Learning that Rick Derringer and Billy Corgan were guests on The Alex Jones show was a big let down for me

[–] funbreaker@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 1 year ago

dammit, billy what the fuck

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[–] Flaky@iusearchlinux.fyi 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

deadmau5 used to be a massive internet edgelord for very much over a decade (think the targeted harassment of Krewella was particularly awful, even if their producer shared his lawyer) until he had some heated moments that forced him to realise he wasn't all there and change his ways. He's still very truthful about the world of EDM but he's not the edgelord he once was, and he's much better for it.

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[–] Clbull@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Wouldn't say I was a big fan of them at the time, but LostProphets.

Ian Watkins is currently serving a 30 year sentence in prison for multiple child sexual offences - incredibly vile shit.

Apparently people had suspected he was a nonce long before he was arrested.

Many former fans went so far as to burn merch, trash CD's and pretty much disavow the band once the news came out. His former band mates dissolved the band and started No Devotion in its place.

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[–] halykthered@lemmy.ml 27 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Iced Earth guitarist was one of the first ones in the door on January 6th. The band pretty much said they disagree with his actions,but not his intent.

Guitarist from Manowar in trouble for being a pedo.

Years ago, Zazz Blammymatazz had a song about getting head from a 14 year old.

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[–] datavoid@lemmy.ml 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

The time Josh Homme kicked that lady in the face

Also this fucker (bassnectar)

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[–] 666dollarfootlong@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I have always loved Rammstein and I still do, however this summer their vocalist was accused of sexual abuse of fans or something but the lawyers found no offense so nothing happened, though apparently they did have a manager for finding hot fans for the band's aftershow parties which is kinda nasty but not illegal

[–] Pea666@feddit.nl 22 points 1 year ago

It’s nothing rockstars haven’t done since there have been rockstars really. It used to be sort of acceptable but times have changed for the better.

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[–] lustrum@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 year ago (8 children)

I used to enjoy Lostprophets

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[–] SuperEars@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Justin Sane, frontman of punk rock's Anti-Flag, was recently accused of "predatory behavior, sexual assault, and statutory rape."

Allegedly he'd eyefuck girls from the stage during shows in a very "That's right, I'm a rockstar, lookin' at you" kind of way, and somehow get them invited backstage later.

His bandmates disbanded after the news broke. Bandmates say they weren't aware, that they stand with the victims, and they condemn his actions.

I saw Anti-Flag at a small venue years back and it makes me wonder if it happened to fellow concertgoers that night.

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[–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Andrew Wood, lead singer of Mother Love Bone, recorded a song ostensibly about how he'll always love heroin more than his long time girlfriend/fiancΓ© then ten days later he overdosed and died.

[–] nezrock@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Karl Logan of Manowar. Currently doing 5 and a half for possessing CSAM. Hell of a guitarist, but a permanent stain on Manowar's image. At least Eric Adams is alright.

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[–] Pea666@feddit.nl 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Let’s not forget the fact that Varg is a right-wing bastard. Fuck him.

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[–] rclkrtrzckr@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Well, King Buzzo tells this shitty story about Mike Patton

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSDSpi0pc48

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[–] anothercatgirl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

More than a few of the musicians whose music I like have gotten in trouble for grooming, being pedos, and abusing minors. Two come to mind immediately because I found out recently: BoyInABand and Geoxor. There's probably more musicians like that whose news I haven't heard of.

edit: I don't follow this band but seems like lostprophets had an even worse situation.

Edit2: I read a bunch of the comments and a very prevalent trend is musicians getting in trouble for being pedos. Why so common?

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[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

I used to love Brand New back in high school and college. When The Devil and God are Raging Inside Me came out, it pretty much captured my life for months. Turns out that the album's lyrics were a little more.. autobiographical than most people thought, and Jesse Lacy is a shitty person.

Also

Varg killed Euronymous because Euro was talking about making a snuff film of Varg because he (E) was jealous of how much success Varg was having with his own project and activities.

Keep in mind that Euronymous's response to his band's vocalists' suicide was to take a picture of his dead body and collect pieces of his skull to hand out to his friends as necklaces. Out of all the shitty things Varg Virkernes has done in his life, killing Euronymous just about makes up for it.

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[–] Moonguide@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Missing a pretty big thing about Varg being a white supremacist, and of the spineless kind.

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