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[–] redditigon@lemm.ee 44 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Lol, votes were sold. How is that democracy anymore?

[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The candidate he was backing lost.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Trump lost...? Did I jump timelines?

[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

No, you're just remembering the wrong time. This is about the supreme court election in Wisconsin.

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Well, you see, money is speech now.

So I guess the question is...would this SCOTUS suppress the free speech of billionaires who want to buy votes directly?

[–] warbond@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Yep, the Citizens United decision let everyone know that some people just have more free speech than others. This is America.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Wasn't democracy the day the electoral college came into existence

[–] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What the ever loving fuck? Why do we need a lawsuit to make someone enforce the existing Wisconsin bribery statute?

Because this is america.

[–] LordWiggle@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It isn't bribary. The checks aren't valid, as many have claimed, so they think their vote gets bought but in the end they are just being scammed. That's what happens when you trust Elon. He lies. Even as the richest man in the world he's too cheap to pay out 1000 dollar votes he bought. Also, breaking the law is only being punished when you're poor. Elon broke the law many times by influencing the stock market for his own profits. And of course all the rapes. He hasn't been convicted of anything. Just "warnings".

[–] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It isn’t bribary.

Did you read the law I posted and linked? They don't have to follow through. Anyone who even offers money or anything else of value to someone to get them to vote or not vote at all is in violation of this law. Whether they follow through on it or not. Just making the offer is a crime. Elon offered money to people to vote. Period. He broke this statute.

[–] LordWiggle@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I meant it as a joke. Scamming people is also a crime.

[–] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Sorry, misunderstood. 👍

[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The lawsuit asks the court to order that Musk never offer similar payments to voters again.

Why stop at a specific number? The troll will just do it again using a different number.

[–] Crazyslinkz@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Or just use a cyber truck.

He can't sell em, he'll just give em away for votes

🤣

[–] javiwhite@feddit.uk 7 points 1 year ago

A better tactic would be to threaten free delivery of a cyberstuck for every person that doesn't vote the way he wants.

[–] ChojinDSL@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It never was a democracy. The fact that the popular vote and the representative vote can produce different results proves this.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

No it doesn't, it just proves that you don't know what a representative democracy is. The electrical college is bullshit, but it's still somewhat democratic

[–] Hylactor@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 year ago

The electrical college is bullshit

Shocking!

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Take your "somewhat" to someone who cares. The electoral college is a piece of biased shit and it can burn in hell.

The person you're sneering at doesn't care that technically you can slap a word in front of democracy and not be lying. The people don't choose the president, a convoluted system designed to be manipulated over time does.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The point is that direct democracy is just one form of democracy and not having the people directly vote for President doesn't make us undemocratic (so much other shit does that).

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Some people have the opinion that if you put in place a system that disempowers voters in some states more than others, this should not be considered a democracy. I agree with that opinion. It can easily be argued, but it sounds like you've made your mind up.

Tribunal of Six:

yOu CAn’T dO ThaT BeCauSe mONeY iS SpeEcH

Side note: fuck the ACLU for using a deeply and fundamentally flawed argument to defend and support the Citizens United ruling. I stopped donating to them when I learned about that years ago.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 3 points 1 year ago

We've failed ourselves by having elected Congresspersons where things like this can even be a concern.