If only workers’ unions were so widespread and powerful as HOAs...
this post was submitted on 16 Oct 2023
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I want to talk to your manager... about workers' rights!
A large group of Karens is called an annoyance.
I though it was agreed it was a complaint...
I was under the impression it was called a Privilege
Nuisance is the legal term.
HOAs just like unions and governments are as good as the people that involve themselves in them and the less people represented in the democracy the more power you have in it so if you're not happy then get involved.
In my experience the people that “involve” themselves are raging clowns with superiority complexes.
And they have control because they don't have opposition from people who aren't like them... Welcome to politics, it's the same thing at all levels. Get involved or shut up. You don't vote? Then you agree with whatever the people who do decided.
Or just don't agree, and get a house that's not part of an HOA. With individual houses at least, you can realistically opt out of a system where the 51% of Karens accept management company bribes.
Wrong. Most areas with an HOA require membership to purchase the home.
Oh, look at that, most good areas have HOAs.
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Exactly. You don't hear about good HOAs because the people who live in them have no reason to discuss it.
True in theory, and while I realize that this is purely anecdotal, in my experience as a contractor, HOAs are invariably a giant pain in the ass to deal with.
What you want as a contractor is a professional property management company that's used to dealing with construction contractors and is familiar with industry standards and basic reality.
Fortunately I don't work in residential construction anymore.
I kinda agree with you. In theory, they definitely are. But at the same time, in practice, the already bad reputation of HOAs seems to attract the worst kind of people. It's a political position and suffers just like any other political position. The kinds of people who'd be best at it often don't want to do it because it's toxic.
While in USA Karens are relatively yong, in post-Soviet countries they are...
A group of them called Grannys Near Entrance or Grannyguards
The younger babushkas (60-70) run flat associations (HOAs for blocks of flats) in my country. Very strict about what you can put on your door, mailbox etc.
They aren't Karen's there babushkas
They are wiser Karens. And with dementia.
But if they see you pissing in a corner, the entire street knows before you zip your pants
Also they keep your bike from being stolen
Unless you ever park it in an unapproved place. They hold grudges for very long.
That reminds me, I used to think getting that haircut would make me look all cool and badass.
I really don't know what I was thinking.
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We don't have them in Australia that I'm aware of, but they do sound atrocious. What happened to that land of the free?
What happened to that land of the free?
TL;DR: racism and segregation.
https://www.homestratosphere.com/homeowners-associations-ugly-history/
My HOA only has rules for weeds and not blocking sidewalks with cars. I thought I was going to hate it, but honestly it keeps things nice. In my last neighborhood so many assholes would have boats and RVs literally parked on the sidewalk.
There are typically city ordinances that cover blocking the sidewalk / abandoning vehicles.
Unenforced City ordinances in my experience. That being said I've never had a HOA so I can't speak to their efficacy.
I'd imagine it's hand in hand with NIMBY's which can just fuck right the hell off.
Wait till leadership changes hands.
Not blocking sidewalks with cars? It's just illegal here.
And weeds kinda too, but only Sosnovsky Hogweed is enforced.
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They're basically just groups that are supposed to help prevent one person tanking everyone's property value by letting their home go to shit.
The problem is that typically the only people who get involved in them are retired busy bodies who want to assert what little power they have. Good ones too exist, though.
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We do have them in the Czech Republic but only in blocks of flats, not neighborhoods.
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They’re basically stratas and body corporations in Australia, except the laws basically make them not as powerful as HOAs
Turns out the rights of private property supersede the quaint concept of "freedom".
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The word "homeowner" contains the word "meow" in it; now you can't read "homeowner" in any other way.
Thank you for this gift
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Shorted down to "Ho Ass"
I read somewhere else another suggestion for a name which was brilliant: Klanned Karenhood
I'm not in any way familiar with HOA's but... in my mind they should be filled with at least a proprotion of bored boomers.
Karen's can be boomers, but can they be male?
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Flashbacks to being 17-18 and working retail.
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