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[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don't care who you support, this would be a bad and biased source

[–] Burstar@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 1 year ago

It's also the only source that publishes. Oryx documentation indicates direct photographic evidence for 50% of the numbers listed here and when you consider that most Russian losses are in areas not easily photographed by civilians this is a strong indicator these reports have some basis in reality. That said, I agree these numbers should absolutely be taken with a grain of salt.

[–] fiah@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

the source (UA general staff) is obviously biased, yes, but we don't know how good or bad it is yet

here's the original source (yes it's facebook): https://www.facebook.com/GeneralStaff.ua/posts/pfbid029Hp57mafK62hrb2gQMqQfL8inL45TErQCHSSQWgsBBGvLQZGW7u275LDutt7QZpJl

[–] derpo@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

I’m deleting this comment, what I thought was just an observation seemed to upset instead.

[–] bentruck@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah way more Iraqi civilians died.

[–] derpo@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That’s a great point. War is so stupid. I bet the collateral numbers from this war will also be depressing

[–] bentruck@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

Yep, and as long as war is profitable for the US it will always be something the US is looking to engage in.

[–] tooting_lemmy@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Think about WWII numbers. About 1,100,000 Soviets died in the Battle of Stalingrad alone.

[–] gary_host_laptop@lemmy.ml -5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Maybe it is because the US invaded a third world country to steal their resources and destabilize it politically and economically in assimetrical warfare and here it a world power against NATO? 🤔

[–] emzillain@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I absolutely LOVE how you're shitting on Americam imperialism here, when Russia is doing the exact same thing you're complaining about? You know, the whole invading Ukraine to steal their resources and destabilize it politically thing, or is it OK when the country is next door instead? 🙂

Russia should continue to be glad they aren't actually fighting NATO yet, they can hardly beat the Ukrainians as it is.

[–] ChrislyBear@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Bad diagram: The comparison period is missing. Is it +- vs yesterday, vs last month, vs last year? Nobody knows and thats why the deltas are meaningless.

[–] Burstar@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 year ago

It's a daily report with totals for all the way up to the start of Russia's attempt at Kyiv in February of last year. The deltas are simply the change from yesterday's report, and so on...

[–] rockyTron@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

These have been daily deltas for a long time, this chart comes out every day.

[–] torturedllama 2 points 1 year ago

I believe the delta is 1 day. The Ukrainian defense ministry has been posting some variation of these infographics on Facebook each day since the war started.

[–] fiah@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

this is a daily report. Yes it's not great that it doesn't say so on the graphic itself but it's a graphic that is originally posted in an article that provides the right context

edit: the UA general staff apparently post it on Facebook of all places: https://www.facebook.com/GeneralStaff.ua/posts/pfbid029Hp57mafK62hrb2gQMqQfL8inL45TErQCHSSQWgsBBGvLQZGW7u275LDutt7QZpJl

[–] Stereocloud@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

The diagram is roughly, all Russian losses since the start of invasion

[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

32 arty, that's pretty good.

[–] PM_ME_YOUR_BOOBIES@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Do the missil losses count the ones that were fired and used as intended, or only the ones that were destroyed before being used?

[–] Burstar@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago

I believe the missile losses count as ones that were successfully intercepted.

[–] gary_host_laptop@lemmy.ml -4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Ukraine reporting about Russia, let me be skeptical.

[–] Potatofish@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

They weren't too far off from the Pentagon's estimates the last time they published. It's not like they are saying that 30 Himar platforms were destroyed yesterday

[–] Potatofish@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

They weren't too far off from the Pentagon's estimates the last time they published.

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