"Instagram owner"
Have they paid the publication for this weird title? It's Meta. Are they so ashamed they believe calling it a Meta service would mean less users?
this post was submitted on 04 Jul 2023
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Also, are we all going to pretend that Meta isn't just Facebook, the company that sold all our data to Cambridge Analytica for a quick buck, a company who then used that data to direct target right leaning moderate, pump them full of anxiety and fear, and turn them into Trump devotees? A company that then later didn't store that data properly and leaked it, allowing thousands of identities to be stolen (including mine)? Meta / Facebook / Instagram are not good actors on the internet and we should be doing more to sully their name
Not saying that Facebook/Meta aren't terrible but this is a misunderstanding of what happened with Cambridge Analytica.
Facebook didn't sell anything to Cambridge Analyitica. Their API at the time allowed CA to gather information about you and all of your friends when you took one of their free personality quizzes (during the era when 90% of Facebook was people sharing personality quizzes).
When Facebook found out what CA had done, they fixed their API to prevent it from happening again (not because they cared about user privacy but because CA got a bunch of information from them that they could use to target advertisements on their own without paying FB to run ads) and covered it up so their users wouldn't know how massively negligent they had been with their data.
So it's not that Facebook was wantonly selling you data to shady characters so much as they were carelessly leaking your data to any shady characters who happened by.
It may just be me but I feel like that is even worse. Because who knows who got a hold of it now.
Don't forget that the groups they targeted were as small as 10 people. Facebook is the reason our world is a shit as it is now. Fuck meta. Fuck Facebook. Fuck all of them. I despise them with deeper hatred than 99.99% of the things I have ever known
Don't forget that they paid teens to (unbeknownst to them) install a vpn and collect all their data, including message content
They also used a hacky mechanism bc they knew they were breaking the app store rules
Facebook / Meta / the instagram owner is evil as fuck
I would gamble all the tea in China that they sold and continue to sell data to literally anyone with a big enough sack of cash.
Well, we aren't. But if you mean "we" as in "humans". Then yes, we've already forgotten and we don't care anymore if you remind us. You're being a paranoid nerd, I don't get all this techy crap, and I'm sure Mark has learned his lesson or at the very least the government will do something.
I do mean "we" as in "humans." I think you're setting yourself up for disappointment if you think Mark Zuckerberg is going to pivot permanently away from the most profitable set of activities his company ever engaged in.
You're based on a Germany focused instance, I see. You're probably more safe from the kinds of things Facebook gets up to than we are on our side of the Atlantic. Over here, Facebook paid $100,000,000 in fines for their behavior. This was 3.3% of the original fine. No regulatory changes were made. It's unknown how much money Facebook made from data brokering with Cambridge Analytica, but they sold the data of 87 million users. Disturbingly, the number of users Facebook who directly participated in the app used to siphon this data was around 270,000. In other words, Facebook didn't even need people to interact with Facebook directly to collect information about people, since they were using network connection information to build profiles about people.
THIS is my concern about why they're so hot to get on the Fediverse right now. They don't want a huge number of users to sign up for Threads. If numerous users do, that would help them greatly with what they do want, though. They want insight into the greater distributed network of the Fediverse. They want to collect information about Mastodon, Pelorma, Friendica, Calckey, Miskey, BookWyrm, KBin, and Lemmy users who interact with users on Threads.
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- Mark hasn't learned his lesson because look at the data they are trying to collect. He's trying to collect so much data that it has become a meme. Do you realize how much information can be captured by using that new Twitter replacement? It seems like you just plugged your ears, screamed "Lalalalala", then buried your head in the ground
- "He learned his lesson" was also used by a senator to justify trump and he then led a coup against the US government. The rich don't learn lessons, they get slaps on the wrist. Nothing has changed from 2016 when this all went down.
- The government will NOT do anything because they are lobbied by ISP providers. There's no reason for them to make any changes because they are making bank as is. We peasants don't pose any risk and we certainly aren't making the elected officials millionaires so why should they listen to us?
I wrote my senior paper at university on data collection and facebooks role in all that. You are so off base with your comment, it's sad. That "paranoid nerd" you just shit on is entirely right and you sound like a reductionist oaf
Well I guess this is because it is called "Threads, an Instagram app"
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Honestly, it's scary. For people that are unaware, there's an amazing resource on privacy-respecting alternatives to popular services and softwares: https://www.privacyguides.org. They are also on Lemmy if you have any question.
Mastodon is already pretty active, and is also part of the fediverse
The unfortunate reality is that unlike us, most of the Twitter users could not care less about making choices, let alone privacy. Twitfaces can't calm down and talk without going ballistic and you think they'll willingly look into what federated social media is?
Alot of them are moving though thanks to twitter repeatedly fucking up, I've been seeing some artists and such on mastodon recently that were only on twitter before.
People just need to spread the word; there isn't a marketing campaign or anything for the fediverse after all.
Mastodon is the federated equivalent of twitter the same way lemmy can be considered the federated alternative of reddit. That's the nice Twitter alternative you are looking for.
This is what I've been telling everyone. Don't go to threads, go to mastodon.
This would be great but most people will not care and sacrifice data for convinence. Wish the government cared as much about us big tech as they did TikTok.
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"Instagram owner" just say Meta lol
We all know it's the Zucc, you don't gotta lie of omission to kick it.
This post is Meta.
On a serious note, can we appreciate Meta's marketing team for the timing of this announcement. They waited for Twitter to bleed to kick it in the shins.
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you lost me at "Instagram"
That's impossible, Instagram already knows your gps coordinates...
Facebook makes a product that squeezes every last drop from your privacy? Nooooooo waaaay!
Ahem. They're called Meta.
But seriously, fuck anything Zuckerberg owns.
I don't care what they all themselves, they are always going to be Facebook.
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installs app
Declines everything
"To use the app You need to allow-"
Uninstalls app
Why the first reaction frame? Instagram is owned by Meta, of course they're going to have incredibly invasive data collection policies.
I expected some data collection but to be honest, have not expected as much (especially location etc., although this can be partly deactivated). But maybe I was too trusting in this case 😅
Great, another Meta privacy brea... I mean service I can stay away from.
No no, you were right the first time
Yeah.. Meta the owner of Facebook/Instagram/WhatsApp wants to collect data from you? Shocker
Mastodon is a viable option, but then again, this app does some basic automatic account creation from existing FB data and follow people from it. This alone will impress some non-tech journalist and praise it. We have become too lazy to get out of the burning house and save our life.
I wonder if any of that break some GPDR or California Data laws.
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This is so egregiously excessive that Threads can't launch in the EU (https://m.independent.ie/business/technology/no-instagram-threads-app-in-the-eu-irish-dpc-says-metas-new-twitter-rival-wont-be-launched-here/a1927220337.html)
Is anyone really supprised?
Not the fact they want to collect our data but it's the kind of data that's concerning.
"Sensitive info". Does Zucky want to collect data about the size of our peepees?
"Other data". Aka "literally whatever the fuck we want"
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Looks to me that Zuck is trying to compete with Truth Social -- no way this garbage will be Federated.
twitter alternative, is mastodon, everything else is companies trying to cache with fediverse
At least we have all the fediverse micro-blogging section
And here!
Yeah I don’t get why they need all these permissions. Crazy
Because they want it. It's the main reason why they've built the app.
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Is this the alleged decentralized/federated Twitter app that Facebook has been working on?
Just no.
Am I hallucinating or didn't they have an app called Threads already? and it was a snapchat UI clone bolted on top of instagram backend?
Yep you're right, and they shut it down: https://techcrunch.com/2021/11/17/instagram-will-shut-down-its-companion-app-threads-by-year-end/
The ONLY good thing about the existence of Threads is that I'll finally be able to follow people from Instagram without actually having to use Instagram. Otherwise it's the largest honeypot of the entire Fediverse
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My big hope from this is that people might learn more about federated content and the fediverse in general. Then they can move away from stuff meta makes into the actual private internet.
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