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Reading this article reminds me how much our ability to send each other money relies on the willingness of the institutional middlemen who control our money.

Although I believe there are good reasons to control the flow of Big Money, I can't help but feel that it is especially Big Money that manages to escape all institutional control, while it is small money - e.g. the money supporting bottom up resistance and solidarity networks - that is facing all the suppression.

Given all of this, what are the most promising ways for bottom-up networks to share resources in an anonymous, sovereign way? Without e.g. the interference of Zionist, fascist, bootlicking intermediaries?

Is it sending envelopes with cash? Or is this maybe a reason to (cautiously) get into crypto? If the latter, what would be the way to go?

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[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This is a textbook use-case for crypto. And honestly, you can fundraise for a lot of things through those conventional channels right now anyway; freedom of association is still strong in the West.

The trick is always getting people to send you money in the first place.

[–] kalipixel@reddthat.com 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Your options are XMR(monero), cash or barter. Or hawala as the other poster described here, but I do not know much about that.

[–] KurtVonnegut@mander.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

Thank you. Monero looks interesting.

[–] StrawberryPigtails@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If I remember correctly, this one of the use cases why bitcoin was created in the first place. It's not anonymous but it does solve the control problem.

The only other way I know if is cash via sneakernet. Also not completely anonymous, and it could get you labeled a drug dealer or distributor. Especially in the US.

As for how to get into bitcoin, you can mine it, but more feasibly, just start doing commerce in it. If you have a podcast or you stream, accept lightning boosts. Or you could sell off your old things for bitcoin. If you have some other business start accepting bitcoin as a form of payment.

If you need to convert a national currency to bitcoin there is a peer to peer network that accepts cash, as well as several online exchanges (ID usually required, at least in the US.

As a warning, once you step off the garden path you lose it's protections, so buyer beware. The "Big Money" have a vested interest in minimizing how badly you can get screwed in their system. Such protections don't exist it the alternative currency sphere regardless of which crypto currency you choose.

[–] KurtVonnegut@mander.xyz 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So you send some person/ organization cash, and they send you crypto coins back? That's the idea?

Something like that. Online exchanges generally take bank transfers. The peer to peer system is usually face to face (at least at first) and can be whatever currency exchange you agree to.

[–] KurtVonnegut@mander.xyz 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Does anyone have any idea why this is being downvoted? I'm not hurt or anything, just curious.

[–] Semjaza@lemmynsfw.com 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Probably the italicising of "sovereign", and the way you seem to be conflating zionism with banking.

The IDF, and Israeli government is ethnically cleansing Palestine. They have nothing to do with the banking system or how you share money though. So it looks like you're spouting antisemitic and far right gook.

[–] KurtVonnegut@mander.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

Oh yes, I can see how that looks bad.

I was referring to the article I shared. How Zionists and Zionism-supporters in the West prevent grassroots money from flowing to Gaza (while our big money has no trouble finding its way to the Israeli genocide machine).

But I guess people generally only read the title.

Or are Zionists themselves maybe.