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[–] Hazdaz@lemmy.world 78 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How about we stop caring what that clown has to say?

I find it especially egregious the people who (rightfully) bash him, but continue to support his products such as Twitter and Tesla. Stop supporting him. Especially on Twitter. Advertisers have fled the platform. Some users have as well. If even 1/2 the people who claim to hate the guy just stopped using Twitter, the entire platform would collapse. Instead you people prop up that site by going to it.

[–] Kleinbonum@feddit.de 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

People whine about how shitty the API has become and how shitty tech support is and how there's no one to talk to when they run into bugs - yet they keep paying Musk $42,000 a month for that privilege.

[–] obinice@lemmy.world 65 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Why report on that guy's opinions as if they matter? He's rich, not a voting rights expert.

He's a fascist, too, which people conveniently ignore because he's rich and some of it might rub off on them.

[–] MrCrowBard@lemmy.fmhy.ml 27 points 1 year ago

For the same reason the opinion of someone like Rupert Murdoch matters. Its not about their viewpoint directly as an individual, its the fact they control massive platforms that can and do sway public opinions.

In murdochs case he's had an influential impact on British politics over the last 40 years and has used his media empire to act as a king maker.

Musk isn't as savvy or as intelligent as Murdoch but that doesn't mean is influential position should be ignored.

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[–] jtk@lemmy.sdf.org 53 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just stop giving this idiot attention, it's what he gets off on. You're all getting him off. If that's what you're into, fine but, if it's not, you're being taken advantage of.

[–] Delusional@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Elon to Twitter execs - "Don't you guys wanna get off with me? Just follow my lead guys, we're gonna get off together."

[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 45 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Welcome to the rise of aggressively pro-natalism billionaires, because it's 2023 and we're not imploding fast enough.

Remember, you won't have a seat on the transport to Mars. And if you ever get there, it will be to work the mines.

[–] GroggyKon@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

I feel like these people are using the Handmaids Tale as a guide at this point...

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[–] ilex@lemmy.world 44 points 1 year ago

Crazy, out of touch billionaire has a crazy, unrealistic idea. Fucking stop the presses.

[–] PeckerBrown@lemmy.world 44 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I support eating the rich; one bite at a time.

[–] telllos@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In french a bite is a.., well this sentence is funny to me.

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[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 41 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I disagree with his fundamental premise that people with children can see the interests of society better.

I don't have children, but I have heard from every possible source that once you have children they become your world.

How is a person expected to reason clearly about the interest of millions of people when they are running an ancient biological program focused on the interests of a tiny family unit?

edit: I once saw the argument that having family doens't make you a better person. Having family makes you a ruthless user and taker on behalf of your family. Most of the stories you hear of people giving in to corruption, happen because those people can't afford to lose their jobs, because they have mouths to feed. Once you have kids, you must choose whether you value your kids over your civic responsibility, or vice-versa.

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[–] Elpinchepana@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, only the desperate, finantially dependent on shitty jobs to feed their youngling should vote. Only them and the wealthy people that provide said shitty jobs. That will surely save what little democracy is left. You know what? People that make as much money as Musk should not be allowed to vote or to donate in order to influence campaings. These dudes have no real nationality, they are not tied anywhere and don’t have the best interest of any nation at heart. Billionaires are practically a walking, talking, foreign power operating within your country’s borders with almost total impunity. A self-deluded eugenecist foreign power at that.

[–] Cerbero@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

It's been the same since the beginning. Thomas Jefferson complained about them too.

"Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains."

[–] Grant_M@lemmy.ca 34 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I support eliminating billionaires.

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[–] Rhabuko@feddit.de 34 points 1 year ago

Not surprising anymore. The guy (like his father) has a insane breeding fetish. And never forget that his father groomed his own adopted daughter (that he know since she was a child) and has two kids with her 🤮.

[–] mojo@lemm.ee 31 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Why do republicans hate freedom so much?

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[–] SloppyPuppy@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago (2 children)

why republicans always find a way to deny voting for some random group?

[–] minnow@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

It's not random. Conservatives and religious fundamentalists are dramatically more likely to have children than progressives and other leftists.

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[–] QubaXR@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago

Like all republicans, Musk is in favor of eliminating voting (and other) rights for various groups, one by one.

[–] menemen@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)
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[–] zefiax@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

People forget a huge side of this as well. It's not just being financial able to have kids but physically able. More and more people now days are seeking fertility treatment and having fertility issues. According to elon, those people would not have the right to vote.

[–] Kleinbonum@feddit.de 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

People who go to college and then university and then intern somewhere to get a junior position and then a senior position are in their mid 30s when they're in a stable enough position to plan for kids.

By contrast, a lot of people who are happy with a high school degree have kids before they're 20.

This is not a value judgment, but separating people by when they're having kids segments the population of into very distinct strata.

It's not hard to guess why a billionaire who's running a right-wing social media platform would prefer a certain demographic.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We waited until our 30s to have a child for a lot of reasons, and I'm glad we did it. We were more financially secure and had sowed our wild oats, so we were also not likely to go out and party. Elon was already financially secure when he had is first child. He has no idea how much a child costs in terms of money and in terms of what sort of life you want to live for most people.

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[–] UnfortunateDoorHinge@aussie.zone 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I like how he's burning bridge after bridge with everyone. No one would want to associate with him, and everything he touches turns to shit. Sure he can enjoy his money, but to an extent he's kinda screwed his venture start-up goodwill for life.

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[–] hark@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

He doesn't even care about his kids, let alone the future. It's all just a numbers game to inflate his ego based on dumb ideology.

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[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Ah yes, “I don’t want to say gay and intersex people shouldn’t be allowed to vote, but I do want it to happen.”

Anyways I’m sterile and drive the most fuel efficient vehicle practical, don’t eat meat, and have made other sacrifices for future generations to have a habitable planet. Musky here has a private jet and at least one of his kids hates him

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[–] klay@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I feel like "has children" probably correlates with "has stable income", which makes this classism by another name.

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[–] Delusional@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Hey why stop there? Let's also not allow voting for people that have been disowned by their kids like musk has. And no voting for religious people who think earth is just a pit stop before heaven/hell so there's no need to improve life on earth at all.

[–] wackypants@kbin.social 16 points 1 year ago (13 children)

To think that not so long ago, this authoritarian, grifting man-child was hailed as the real-life Tony Stark. If the mask slips any further, even his remaining fanboys are going to find it difficult to defend him.

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[–] G59@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Judging by how he treats his wives, he probably even wants to repeal women's right to vote.

[–] RedAggroBest@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Immediately read this headline and thought "Next, only married people should be having kids so realistically only the husband needs to vote since his wife should align with him". Followed by some good ol SA-style apartheid for the minorities.

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[–] theostermanweekend@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh, he's a piece of shit, alright. What where we thinking, holding this dude up as some kind of visionary?

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[–] Pika@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

at this point I'm not surprized, he gives a GIVE ME ATTENTION vibe hardcore, everything he does is against cultural standard.

[–] PhoenxBlue@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 year ago

Is this guy literally having a psychosis?

His actions lately (I say lately, loosely) have been absolutely batshit bonkers.

I'm enjoying the show none the less

[–] Holyginz@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

I hate that so much credence is being given to the words of that mouth breather. Dude was born with an emerald spoon in his mouth and has a god complex because he bought a car company.

[–] sci@feddit.nl 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What happened to free speech absolutist

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 1 year ago

What happened to free speech absolutist

It turns out he's a disingenuous shit-bag. But you didn't need me to tell you that.

[–] blue_zephyr@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What about spoiled billionaires who's children despise him?

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[–] PeterPoopshit@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Does this apply to boomers who no longer have kids that are under the age of 18? You mean they still get to vote? Then fuck off Elon no one wants to buy your stupid tesla coils.

[–] fuzzybee@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago

How about instead we eliminate the voting rights (and eligibility to hold office or judgeships) of those who are within 10 years of their life expectancy? Childless middle-aged adults have a lot more stake in the state of the world they are going to be living in for the next 40-50 years than the old farts who are about to die.

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