When I was a teacher, the main reason so many students were dropped off and picked up at my school was because of what we call “School of Choice.” Essentially instead of parents being required to send their kid to the school their home is zoned for, they can send their kid to any school in the district, but if they do, they have to provide transportation.
this post was submitted on 09 Jun 2023
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It is so miserable and effectively shuts down a major street. People will tolerate the dumbest things just because it is the status quo.
@const_void the school traffic situation was the tipping point for getting a #cargobike for us. Much calmer and faster way to do it, with opportunity for spotting and chatting about stuff going on in the neighbourhood. There’s the occasional poor driver behaviour that affects us but it’s quite rare compared what you get in the car.
Nice one! You not only don't have to wait in a queue, the kids get to see a lot more of what's going on around them, you keep fit, save money etc. So many up sides! Unfortunately many places are not set up for safe biking :-/
You can't expect parents to let their kids WALK to school can you? It's not safe - there's so many cars around! 🙄
The yellow school bus is like one of the most recognised US specific object. I thought they were standard issue in the US lol
My son's school charges $630 per year to ride the bus. And that is a public school. I still pay for it though, because, 1. I'm not going to spend my time sitting in a line cars every day. Not to mention take time off from work to do it. 2. I want him to experience life. It's a great place for socialization
So what are working class families supposed to do if they can't afford it and the parents can't get time off work? The kids just don't go to school?
@Billy_Gnosis @const_void my school bus ticket costed a bit over 400€ and it was a normal bus ticket which i could use to use the buses in the near vincinity. My parent needed to pay 0€ directly for this.
And this was over 10 years ago, so the price is around 450 now.
Here in Germany there is now a ticket for 49€ a month (588€ a year but you can cancel it every month) that allows you to ride on any public transit and regional trains in the entire country. As an adult too, not just as a student. It is a personalized one though (non-transferable).
It's crazy. When I was a kid (a long time ago) it cost nothing to ride the bus to school.
@Billy_Gnosis @Sebastian £17.50 a week, £70 a month, about £682.50 a year, which is $857.56 USD. I cry every-time I check my bank balance 😔
"It's a great place for socialization" yeah like being bullied. Lol
Not sure what school your kids go to, that's type of stuff isn't an issue for mine. I'm sure things do happen, but that's part of growing up and learning. It's called life
Not exactly a new thing. My kid rides the bus except for special occasions, but those drop off/pick up lines are crazy. I don't get how people handle that every day.
I noticed the same thing with a local school in Canada.
It could be because kids aren't within "walking distance" any more, could be because the kids have something to do right after school, could be less bus drivers (because who wants to put up working 4 hours per day for minimum wage dealing with all those kids), or finally just the culture has changed (to driving everywhere).
the culture has changed
School buses are Communism! You can't expect Little Johnny to share a bus with other children now, can you? He will wait 30 minutes every day in the school dropoff ~~traffic jam~~ queue inside his private vehicle like a good American. /s
Completely insane and infuriating every time I see it.
I grew up with this culture, unfortunately, never rode a school bus or saw one.
And yea, it is complete trash. Let's put tiny vulnerable road-unintelligent children, all running around, in the same place as a bunch of stressed out parents driving cars while mostly thinking about work or not being late for work.
What could go wrong!
Shit ... let's reduce the speed limit drastically to prevent accidents! Ok, now it's just a big fat traffic Jam! Shit ... let's build specialised roads within the school to increase the speed of drop off. Ok ... now we've lost some of our school grounds and it's marginally better ... except everyone's driving tanks/four-wheel-drives now so it's pretty dangerous for kids still! Shit lets ...
Seen all of that. It's really really dumb and stressful for kids and parents alike.
They aren't really like tanks. Tanks have some design considerations for the driver to notice people in front of the vehicle.
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I always walked to school as a kid and it was very high priority to me that the neighborhood I live in now allows my kids to do the same
I live across the street from an elementary school and my driveway is blocked every single day. Including Fridays when I have lunch with my father, who lives out of town, and need to... Park in my driveway. Parents and school districts are inconsiderate fucks.
Are you suggesting they wouldn't have to take time off if they walked to the school, then home, then back to work?
Parents these days a lot more protective than they were in the past. Most parents are worried about there kids going missing or some other crap. I honestly wish my mother was less protective, for example I go on bike rides at least 20 to 30 miles at the minimum and my mother always wants to know what my location is all the time. I get that my mother cares about me but being trapped inside a bubble sucks, I remember when I was in middle school and if I stayed out of the house past dark I would be punished, being punished led me to become more anti social and I got addicted to weed and alcohol because I had no escape, thanks to my father. As soon as my father died and I moved out to my grandmas, things did get better, my mother is less over protective, but I feel like I have no say in any matter and I feel like I'm being ignored and I'm trying to get my life started by trying to get a job and trying to get my drivers license, but my mom is always working or is lazy and she won't help me. I honestly have lost a lot of motivation because of my mother to do anything sometimes then I just get yelled at for doing something I want to do. But things this year have been turning better for me, I found many good life long friends that have helped me through the hardest of times, my friends helped me with the aftermath of my shitty relationship, they stood up for me and told her to fuck off. There are many good people in this world and I hope all of you succeed in the hardest of times find the good in the world. My heart goes out to the people that have over protective parents because most times over protective parents do more harm than good. Yeah I went on rant, but I wish all of you the best of wishes. -David
We don't do school buses anymore? I suppose we have to condition them to drive everywhere in a car from when they're young.
That's SoCiAlIsT!
FWIW, I live in the US and my kids ride their bikes to and from school. It is possible, but only in a few places.
I'm assuming the insane cuts to our public education system trickle down to the bus drivers too
This can depend on a lot of factors, but the biggest is often time. School busses usually can service the overwhelming number of kids in their district, but for some kids that route can add an extra hour before and after school. For kids with after school activities, that could be a non-starter.
When I was in school, the bus route did not stop near my house, and it was too far to walk, and there was no good bike route (though one exists now). In middle and high school I would often walk or bike to a friend's house after school but that wasn't always an option.
This is a situation forced on us by car-centric city planning
Where I live we never had school buses, so I was always dropped off at school and would walk home. I used to think it was odd to have a school bus pick kids up, though that was before I realized how fucked car centricity is
What do you mean "now?" Always been like this where I am.
It's spreading and you're the epicentre 😧