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[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 41 points 1 year ago

*Sounds of Nigel Farage scrambling to make a Tik Tok account*

[-] flamingos@feddit.uk 26 points 1 year ago

He's actually already the most popular politician on TikTok.

[-] shadowedcross@sh.itjust.works 32 points 1 year ago

Yeah, considering how good right wing influencers are at, well, influencing young people, this may not be good news.

[-] Womble@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Given that in the 2024 election the two most left wing groups (lab+lib+green voting) were 18-24 women followed by 18-24 men, probably not.

[-] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah this is a real jackpot for certain type of right wingers

[-] G4Z@feddit.uk 33 points 1 year ago

I'm in favour of this, however it's only a fraction of what needs to be done to overhaul our voting system. We need to get rid of FPTP and reform the lords.

[-] wewbull@feddit.uk 24 points 1 year ago

To me this is tinkering with the edges of a broken system. How about some proper voting reform?

[-] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 1 points 1 year ago

The public rejected that at referendum.

[-] DavidGA@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

A generation ago.

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

How about an actual referendum on whether or not we need a better system rather than "do you want this plaster putting on it?"

Single transferable vote is not a solution to the first past the post problem. It's literally the same system with a minor fix which won't really result in any change since we effectively live in a two-party system anyway.

[-] wewbull@feddit.uk 2 points 1 year ago

It was AV in the referendum not STV

[-] sirico@feddit.uk 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If you can die for your country, you should be able to vote Edit: afterthought and more importantly, we're happy to tax them too.

[-] AnarchistArtificer@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

I've always found it silly that one could legally have sex with their MP, but not vote for them

[-] wewbull@feddit.uk 2 points 1 year ago

Weirdly, you can only die for your country with parental consent if you're under 18.

[-] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 2 points 1 year ago

No, you can’t. Under-18s are banned from theatres of combat, as the UK has ratified the Optional Protocol to the Convention on the Rights of the Child. A few 17yo were accidentally deployed to Iraq, but sent home within 3 weeks.

[-] thehatfox@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

This feels like a big shift for it actually to happen, but I think it's the right decision overall.

The idea that 16 legally a person can (with some caveats) live independently in their own home and raise a family, and pay all the relevant tax along the way, but not have their say in elections has always seemed incongruous to me. It's the young who feel the political outcomes the longest after all.

How many young people will actually turn out is another question politically though.

[-] deadcatbounce@reddthat.com 1 points 1 year ago

Haha. They're changing the voting age. Not your ability to have a tattoo, cigarettes or get married without your parents consent or hundreds of other things.

It's about keeping power. Not about helping you or me as citizens.

[-] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

So that’s Farage a lock for PM then.

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 5 points 1 year ago

Young people are becoming more right-leaning, but they still trend left/"left" IIRC. This shouldn't be a boon to Farage, though it also won't hurt him nearly as much as it would even a few years ago.

[-] Womble@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Lots of people witter on about young men becoming right wing in the UK like we're America, in reality young men were the second most left wing demographic after young women in the last election.

[-] thehatfox@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Younger people still trend left, but they also may trend lefter than Labour. Which could mean more splitting of the overall vote and more unpredictability with our FPTP system.

[-] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Anticipating the change, The Scum polled 16/17yo at the last election. Reform came 2nd behind Labour overall, but joint first amongst males. The Tories came last overall, with greens last among males.

[-] 0x0@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 year ago

So those who voted on the right were mostly 16-18?
Got it.

[-] deadcatbounce@reddthat.com 1 points 1 year ago

Young people typically vote liberal side.

[-] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 1 points 1 year ago

The liberals haven’t been relevant since the coalition.

[-] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 1 points 1 year ago

I don't think there should be a voting age at all. Also think that prisoners should be entitled to vote.

Basically, I think everyone who is a British, Irish or Commonwealth citizen living in the UK should be able to vote.

I wouldn't be too opposed to other nationalities with Indefinite Leave to Remain voting either. Especially for council elections.

[-] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

So toddlers? Manifesto promises for free sweeties allowance and later bedtimes?

[-] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If a toddler is capable of being registered to vote, going into a polling station, marking a ballot according to their own free will and putting it into the box, then they should be able to vote.

Also, free sweeties and later bedtimes are better manifesto promises than making the rich richer and the poor poorer

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