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This dude posts a wildly racist meme of Michelle Obama. I report the post. Funnily enough, the racist post is posted by the mod of dankmemes, dankchristianmemes and some other shit hole.

Said mod then starts sending abusive transphobic messages to me. Try to report the user. Nothing happens when I hit the button.

Shit like this is why Lemmy isn't a viable alternative yet. We need to do better and be better.

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[–] MichelleG@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Hello everyone. This is Michelle, one of the Lemmy.world Admins/Moderators.

I want to let you know that if you are reporting a post/comment from a community moderator, please message me and let me know your concern. Especially if it relates to the violation of server rules for hate speech, racism, threats, or calls to violence.

If it’s a Lemmy.world community, they can resolve the report before we have a chance to see it. So please let me know if no action is being taken.

If the community is on another instance, we can see the reports you submit. We can ban and remove the posts/comments from our side.

We have zero tolerance for homophobia, racism, hate speech, bullying, child pornography, and many others that are listed under our server rules.

The moderation tools we currently have are not very robust, but I hope this helps clarify what can be done to escalate issues.

[–] i_simp_4_tedcruz@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Can we please defederate from exploding-heads.com? Nothing good comes from there.

[–] db2@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago

A post on that goofball server says:

Exploding-Heads.com will go offline August 31st 2023.

So we won't have to deal with their whiny racist sexist bullshit for long.

If you're curious an accurate tl;dr of the post that's from is "waah we can't be total shitheads with impunity while also telling everyone else what to do, so we're going to ~~voat~~ nostr where other insufferable brats also go."

[–] markovianparallax@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Noob question: can we, at the individual user-level, block entire instances?

[–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Some apps allow it, like Connect.

[–] Vorticity@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Wow, that instance looks like a cesspool.

[–] masquenox@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Soooo... I don't see any way to report abusive mod behavior at all here on lemmy - there doesn't even seem to be a way to let the other mods of a given community know about the behavior of one of their mods. I've just been suspended from World News because one of the mods there decided that the term white supremacist counts as a perjorative.

[–] poo@kbin.social -1 points 1 year ago

👏 Amazing 👏, please ban this fisuxcel bigot

[–] dreadedsemi@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do mods see who report what? Because that means I won't report anything. I stopped reporting on Facebook groups because of that. I stopped reporting on Reddit when Reddit started sending me feedback on my reports.

[–] Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yes and I find it very strange. The few reports I've seen on my communities show who reported, what was reported, and the reason given

Edit: also as a mod I feel that knowing who reported something isn't necessary? The only thing I can truly think of is so mods can do something about report spam or false reporting, but to me a better solution would be having it hidden to mods, and visible to admins if it needs to be investigated for report abuse/spam/etc.?

[–] Aux@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Mods are moderating, they should know who reports what. Anonymous reports don't work and lead to abuse.

[–] utopianrevolt@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

We can't pretend this is just a Lemmy issue. But I agree with your sentiment.

[–] ThreeHalflings@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Isn't the recourse to ask the instance admin to intervene?

[–] i_simp_4_tedcruz@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yup. Except the report button goes nowhere.

[–] SpezCanLigmaBalls@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

It’s cause the app you are using is still being built

[–] EsotericEmbryo@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Try doing it via the browser instead of using the app and it should work!

[–] T156@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wouldn't the report just go to the moderator, who can disregard it?

[–] coldhotman@nrsk.no 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[–] fsk@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is a recourse. You start your own node and block the offending node. Aren't there features that let you block individual users?

[–] i_simp_4_tedcruz@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Should I set up my own smtp server too? What about dns?

[–] overzeetop@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is the biggest problem the fediverse has. Because it was set up by people who live/are good at IT it’s just assumed that everyone is. It’s open source; don’t like something, just code your own version! Unfortunately, that will lock out around 98% of all users and we (Lemmy/kbin) will just be some backwater circkejerk of interests which overlap with programming as a hobby.

I think the mods are currently drinking from a firehose and, if we want to be part of the solution, the best thing we as users can do is be patient and thick skinned until the assholes are brought under control. That really could mean just abandoning a big server like Lemmy.world for something quieter like sopuli.xyz or a defederated instance like beehaw.

There is no karma here, moving to a new server and deleting the old server account should be viewed as a tactical win. If you want to get in the mud and pursue the troll in their own instance, make an account there and plug in your angry keyboard. If you just want to find a place to be comfortable, find it and stonewall that asshole. You’re not really losing any reputation or, one will presume, friend base since you’ll probably subscribe to the nicer communities using the same public username when you move instances.

I wish you all the best.

[–] coldhotman@nrsk.no 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[–] jherazob@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is why huge instances are not a good idea, the shitstain will likely be booted out when the overworked admins get to the complaint but will take time, if the instance was smaller it would have been done already but big instances need lots of work

[–] stevehobbes@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just need more moderators and admins, takes time to build that infrastructure.

In the mean time every non-insane person creating content will help drown that garbage out until the infrastructure is in place.

[–] Melpomene@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

Lemmy and Kbin have both seen a huge influx of people in the past few weeks, so admins of each instance are struggling to keep up. For the most part, the admins are working for free, in addition to whatever their day jobs are.

Having said that, I'd report those magazines / communities to the admin of the instance for action, understanding that right now, they're buried in requests, questions, and complaints. If the issue is an entire instance, well, defederation is an option.

FWIW, I was threatened on Reddit more than once with actual murder... people threatening to come to my house and kill me. Reddit's general response was to... delete the chat message in question as a "resolution" to my complaint. AFAIK, that was the extent of their action. I at least have the impression that abusive users will be removed, though it might take a bit given the incredible influx of new users.

I am sorry that they're harassing you though. Noting to block those magazines / communities.

[–] daniskarma@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I got arrased by both users and moderators in reddit, at r/Europe, nada all I got from Reddit admins was autoresponses of "Reported content doesn't constitute a violation of Reddit Rules".

I see Lemmy.world working much better than reddit seeing this post.

[–] nieceandtows@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

This is disgusting

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Lemmy isn’t a viable alternative

To what?

You went to a website owned by racists, and after you wrote to them complaining, they refuse to take the racist content off their website. You could be talking about CNN right now.

[–] BettyWhiteInHD@kbin.social -1 points 1 year ago

Must be exhausting to constantly think about trans people and hate everyone and everything at all times.

[–] penix@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

Aaron Swartz died for this.

[–] expatriado@lemmy.world -5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I got banned from all of reddit for 3 days because i reported a post that broke a rule, few hours later that post was removed for braking such rule, so i got banned for helping