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Every day we get closer to an Orwellian society. The United Kingdom may already be one.

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[–] ordnance_qf_17_pounder@reddthat.com 96 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Almost the entire western world is going authoritarian. Very worrying trend. It has to be stopped.

[–] DavidGarcia@feddit.nl 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

the only thing that can really stop it IMO is mainstreaming decentralized social media and messaging services.

You'd need to effectively replace Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, YouTube, Whatsapp etc.. The only thing that totally keeps us from 1984 is that all these platforms for now have decided to be relatively free and impartial (compared to how bad it could be). But that could change at any time if the powers that be decide to on a whim. They could completely ban all privacy, pacificsm or any kind of political opposition tomorrow.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 year ago

No it won't stop it. Blood and violence is needed but we are sheep.

[–] banazir@lemmy.ml 78 points 1 year ago (1 children)

From the fact Britain produced Orwell, Huxley's Brave New World, and Alan Moore's V for Vendetta, I figure the UK has always been some shade of "Orwellian".

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

Historically, the UK has always been very self assured in their goals and never looked for outside input while disregarding the people that they were upending. Anyone who wasn't helping them was viewed as an enemy to be controlled, oppressed , or destroyed. If that isn't a non-political explanation of rightwing authoritarianism, I'm not sure what is.

[–] vane@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We are living in Orwellian society, it's just the news catching up with reality.

[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The news has been trying to obfuscate this awareness for as long as possible.

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[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 27 points 1 year ago (24 children)

Old enough to remember how Europeans smugly thought that they lived in some sort of an enlightened and free society.

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[–] onion@sopuli.xyz 26 points 1 year ago (5 children)

The UK ain't part of the EU mate

[–] menemen@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

It's worse in Germany.

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[–] ALiteralCabbage@feddit.uk 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The UK would be one if anyone could be bothered to run it properly.

[–] banazir@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They're looking to install Nigel Farage as their prime minister. The island is derelict.

[–] Tangentism@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not quite.

Farage keeps running around saying "Pick me! Pick me!" and the press keep asking "Is farage a viable candidate?" while not offering the same credence to anyone else.

The British public are "We're fucking sick of this bollocks from the establishment" and a lot of them are falling for the privately educated ex city trader Farages nonsense that he's a "man of the people" because all the centrist parties are saying "aren't immigrants awful?" in an attempt to distract from their own incompetence and quite frankly, the left is 10 years behind in offering a coherent alternative to all the bullshit.

[–] Zak@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

a lot of them are falling for the privately educated ex city trader Farages nonsense that he’s a “man of the people”

This parallels Trump, but I think it's mostly not that people are really fooled into believing these wealthy politicians are just like them. I think the attraction is more that the current system isn't working for a lot of people and hasn't been for a long time. Someone who offers to tear it down can attract a large following even if they don't have a good proposal for what to replace it with.

It took a while for me to see that because I find the racist and nationalist beliefs of the likes of Trump, Farage, and the AFD so appalling it's hard to see anything else.

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[–] TheLeadenSea@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Not even close to the horrors of an Orwellian society and saying it is is an insult to the characters in those books. It isn't great though, and it's heading in a troubling direction

[–] unabart@sh.itjust.works 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think the characters in the book will forgive as that's a work of fiction and they are not real. That's like saying I insulted Bugs Bunny for having big teeth. We'll get through this calamity. ✌🏻

[–] DrDystopia@lemy.lol 7 points 1 year ago

I'm the guy that gets offended on behalf of what ever I want.

[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 16 points 1 year ago

and it’s heading in a troubling direction

I'd say it's heading in an orwellian direction...

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[–] artyom@piefed.social 9 points 1 year ago

Orwell never could have imagined society as it exists currently.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago

The EU is using genocide censorship as an excuse to abort all "freedom" laws. A hillarious twist.

[–] upstroke4448@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

As an American it's nice to see were not the only ones in a complete downward spiral.

EDIT: wild that there are users pretending to be butthurt by this obviously joke comment so they can farm upvotes from the tens of users on Lemmy

[–] fubbernuckin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 30 points 1 year ago (2 children)

As an American, no it's not nice. Why would I want more of this shit elsewhere?

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[–] lemmyknow@lemmy.today 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Wishing ill on people, eh?

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[–] belated_frog_pants@beehaw.org 7 points 1 year ago

Nice? I wish it was just the US so getting to another country would make it safe for us. This is awful.

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[–] merde@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago

how will this "client side scanning" be implemented?

it's, not only worrying, but very confusing.

[–] inna@lemmings.world 6 points 1 year ago

For the age verification is it possible to sign a petition? I think is not too late to join forces… or anything but not letting them go further.. as of the chat control probably only contacting the representatives. I really hope lawyers and businessmen try to fight it…

[–] lemming@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago

Have you already written to your members of parliament about chat control, and possibly other matters? Seriously, do it. There is very little you can do, but this might actually help. Slightly. Maybe.

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