this post was submitted on 06 Jul 2023

162 points (98.2% liked)

Star Trek

10608 readers

72 users here now

r/startrek: The Next Generation

Star Trek news and discussion. No slash fic...

Maybe a little slash fic.

New to Star Trek and wondering where to start?

Rules

1 Be constructive

All posts/comments must be thoughtful and balanced.

2 Be welcoming

It is important that everyone from newbies to OG Trekkers feel welcome, no matter their gender, sexual orientation, religion or race.

3 Be truthful

All posts/comments must be factually accurate and verifiable. We are not a place for gossip, rumors, or manipulative or misleading content.

4 Be nice

If a polite way cannot be found to phrase what it is you want to say, don't say anything at all. Insulting or disparaging remarks about any human being are expressly not allowed.

5 Spoilers

Utilize the spoiler system for any and all spoilers relating to the most recently-aired episodes, as well as previews for upcoming episodes. There is no formal spoiler protection for episodes/films after they have been available for approximately one week.

6 Keep on-topic

All submissions must be directly about the Star Trek franchise (the shows, movies, books etc.). Off-topic discussions are welcome at c/quarks.

7 Meta

Questions and concerns about moderator actions should be brought forward via DM.

Upcoming Episodes

Date	Episode	Title
11-21	LD 5x06	"Of Gods and Angles"
11-28	LD 5x07	"Fully Dilated"
12-05	LD 5x08	"Upper Decks"
12-12	LD 5x09	"Fissue Quest"
12-19	LD 5x10	"The New Next Generation"

Episode Discussion Archive

In Production

Strange New Worlds (2025)

Section 31 (2025-01-24)

Starfleet Academy (TBA)

In Development

Untitled comedy series

Wondering where to stream a series? Check here.

Allied Discord Server

founded 1 year ago

MODERATORS

ValueSubtracted@startrek.website

USSBurritoTruck@startrek.website

OpticalData@startrek.website

162

Episode Discussion | Star Trek: Strange New Worlds | 2x04 "Among the Lotus Eaters" (startrek.website)

submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by ValueSubtracted@startrek.website to c/startrek@startrek.website

163 comments fedilink hide all child comments

Written by Kirsten Beyer & Davy Perez

Directed by Eduardo Sanchez

Logline

Returning to a planet that dredges up tragic memories, Captain Pike and his landing party find themselves forgetting everything, including their own identities as he confronts a ghost from his past.

(page 2) 50 comments

sorted by: hot top controversial new old

[–] astroturds@startrek.website 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A very TOS episode that I thoroughly enjoyed!

Can we let La'an have a few happy moments in this season? That woman must be riddled with PTSD by now.

It was great to finally get Pike back! Has he ever told his girlfriend that he's almost certainly going to be disabled? What a pickle he's in. I think if I were in his shoes I would have let the relationship end. The guilt must be driving him insane.

I feel like they might be messing around with the timelines so that they can save Pike from his horrendous fate and just say it's an alternate timeline compared to TOS. Normally I'd be against that, but it's Pike and I love him so much that I almost want them to do it.

[–] StillPaisleyCat@startrek.website 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The nature of a time crystal is that it’s a fixed event in every timeline forward.

Once Pike drew the crystal on Borath, it was locked in.

[–] astroturds@startrek.website 6 points 1 year ago

Thanks, I should know that, I've seen every episode!

In a kind of sad way he does have a happy ending. I just don't want it to happen to him. Poor old Pike!

[–] FormerGameDev@midwest.social 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Outside of Pike and Batel's relationship, are there any points in this episode that look to connect to anything else in the currently ongoing plotline in SNW? I didn't really notice anything, it seems like this might be the most standalone episode.

load more comments (3 replies)

[–] flamingmongoose@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Enjoyed this very much, the tone was very creepy. Reminded me of the psychological horror episodes only TNG really did.

[–] StillPaisleyCat@startrek.website 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I would link it back to psychological mystery of The Cage and further to its touchstone, the MGM 50s classic Forbidden Planet.

[–] regeya@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Rigel 7 is literally a callback to The Cage

load more comments (1 replies)

[–] Tired8281@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don't understand that dude, needling the dude with no memory who was beating on him, then acting all surprised when that same dude puts a gun on him. Like, what was he trying to do? It seemed like he was trying to get Pike to kill him, but then he wasn't. Wtf?

[–] crazycanadianloon@startrek.website 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The way I read the scene was that he was so high off his power that he thought with the tables turned and Pike having no power that he would have the upper hand. But Pike managed to subdue him and High Lord Zacarias was all of a sudden staring down the barrel of a phaser rifle and all of a sudden wasn't so confident that the Pike he knew, who would lower the weapon once the combatant was subdued, was still there. I think the sudden switch was just an "OH shit, what have I done?" moment.

load more comments (1 replies)

[–] concrete_baby@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago

It's good to see Kirsten Beyer back in the writer's room. It could be her that this episode reminds me of Workforce from VOY where the away team forget about their identities and keep on working for the planet government.

I felt the pacing was a bit rushed at the end and the episode could have given more time to explore the Kalar man's memories and history so his arch is more earned.

[–] Azfaa@startrek.website 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have loved SNW from the get go but I think its great that to me at least every episode has been great. I don't think I have felt meh or bummed out by any singular one so far. Comparing to TNG and DS9 who had quite a few meh episodes. That is great imo

[–] thomasb2k@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

I agree, this show has knocked it out the park. It's in the top 3 for me; TNG, DS9, and SNW. The order changes regularly ;)

[–] polymorphist_neuroid@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

OK, can someone help me out? I had major deja-vu with the scene where Spock tells Ortegas she can't go on the ~~field trip~~ away mission. Wasn't there another episode where Ortegas was about to get to go on an away mission and got told she couldn't at the last minute? Or did I maybe see that scene in a preview or something?

load more comments (2 replies)

[–] sabremows@meow.social 4 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I'm primarily curious about Batel's job responsibilities. Her main job seems to be as a JAG officer but she also has a field command on the Cayuga?

load more comments (5 replies)

[–] timeisart@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

oh wow tf was that lol.. didn't know I was signing up for Strange New Worlds: Dementia Simulator..! , great episode!

load more comments