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[-] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 11 points 1 year ago

Well, that would be one way to force people to return to the office.

But you also couldnt have anyone travel, it would be tough to get contractors, forget anything international, no more business confidential communications at all, etc.

The moment a government does this, that countries economy will suffer greatly.

[-] FizzyOrange@programming.dev 13 points 1 year ago

They won't ban corporate VPNs.

[-] lIlIlIlIlIlIl@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

What’s a “corporate VPN,” and how could anyone tell the difference?

[-] FizzyOrange@programming.dev 0 points 1 year ago

"A corporate VPN is any VPN used primarily for private business purposes." -Online Safety Bill (2029), probably.

Courts will determine the difference.

[-] lIlIlIlIlIlIl@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

OK, but a VPN packet in practice looks exactly the same as the next. There’s literally zero difference in a “business VPN” packet vs any other, which is my point. The courts literally cannot differentiate.

[-] FizzyOrange@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago

Why do the courts need to differentiate VPN packets? They will just say "uhm, Mozilla, your public VPN product that is offered for purchase in the UK is not compliant with the Online Safety Act. Change it or we'll fine you one miillllion dol..pounds.".

Not saying I like it, but the idea that they can't do it is silly. And there are increasing levels of "China" that they can go to it they way:

  1. Block access to foreign VPN websites.
  2. Block VPN access to foreign VPN providers (trickier, but they could definitely degrade the experience).
  3. Block all VPN connections at the ISP level except to whitelisted IPs. Companies can apply to the government to get their VPN IPs whitelisted.

Don't imagine that they can't become China for technical reasons. The only thing holding them back is politics and it isn't doing a good job of that.

[-] lIlIlIlIlIlIl@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Right, but what stops you and I from using a VPN? Your logic is sound from the provider point of view - but I can set up my own VPN quickly and cheaply. So for me the end user nothing has changed as far as I can see it.

And if anyone asks? Oh Im just using

[-] FizzyOrange@programming.dev 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Step 3 stops you from doing that.

Also I don't think you can set up a VPN very easily. If you're thinking of using a VPS, apparently they are mostly blocked by major sites.

Best you can do is domain fronting with VPN over HTTPS but China can even block that based on traffic analysis.

[-] lIlIlIlIlIlIl@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

“Block all VPN connections”

OpenVPN packets can be disguised to look like regular non-VPN packets. This won’t stop anyone who’s mildly determined

[-] FizzyOrange@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago

China can even block that based on traffic analysis.

[-] foremanguy92_@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

Bro sorry but as one said in the comment, it's total bullshit. There's absolutely to need to protect the VPNs but to protect the internet I don't care that VPNs in themselves get banned it's just the fact of banning access to a ressource to someone based of some unknown criterias that is purely unacceptable

So on my side a petition about "protecting the VPNs" is purely inefficient (But I thank the guy who started it and you to spread good speech even if not 100% useful)

[-] AntiBullyRanger@ani.social -5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Governments use VPNs, wtf is 𐑞s baitline? Unless 𐑞s is ano𐑞r useless hitlist 𐑓 𐑬𐑞oritarians 𐑑 target privacy defenders.

[-] lazynooblet@lazysoci.al 11 points 1 year ago
[-] AntiBullyRanger@ani.social -2 points 1 year ago

wot wot? UK.gov has VPNs. Fightforthefuture won't do 💩. This is just a hitlist in disguise.


Unless, you too haven't learned to salt comments?

[-] uhmbah@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I down voted you because there's something wrong with your keyboard. Fix it

[-] AntiBullyRanger@ani.social -1 points 1 year ago

Because you asked, I can translate it:

spoilerGovernments use VPNs, wtf is this baitline? Unless this is another useless hitlist for auoritarians to target privacy defenders.

And no, my vkeyboard is fine. It just you were not taught Shavian.

[-] KSPAtlas@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago

Mixing shavian and Latin script is interesting

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