Flippanarchy
Flippant Anarchism. A lighter take on social criticism with the aim of agitation.
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Oh damn it's almost like the allies refused to sign a deal with the USSR https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/026569149602600303
Ffs there are so many real reasons to criticise the USSR but the allies (non USSR allies) fucking suuuuuucked in ww2. Completely happy to abandon Slavs and Jews to the Nazi war machine in order to shore up their own positions. Arrogant as all fuck about their position, and extremely willing to forgive Nazis and collaborators afterwards.
What the fuck was the USSR meant to actually do? Fight Germany alone selflessly?
What the fuck was the USSR meant to actually do?
Not add "we get to invade Eastern Europe if we feel like it" as a clause in negotiations with the allies.
Very unserious.
Could they have been less self interested in some of the terms? Absolutely. Is there a single nation state that isn't self interested? no. Maybe that's why nation States are dogshit ways to organise.
The Polish government, trusting the British one, and choosing to believe that the soviet terms requiring permission to move armies through Poland were a prelude to invasion damned their own people to slaughter at the hands of the Nazis.
I'm sure the rich elites were trying to make the best decision for the citizenry, and not trying to save their own wealth. Government is typically so selfless afterall.
Being a Nazi collaborator is not a contest or something you have to make a ranking. Either you are one or you are not.
This meme brought to you by true French, Italian, Romanian, Hungarian, Bulgarian, Croatian, and Finish patriots.
OP ignoring actual nazi allies or they don't count since allies?
Like Italy or Japan or the French that sided with the nazis?
Please ignore the actual allies of the Nazis, we have propaganda to push!
French were occupied, and had active resistance, with minimal compliance from Occupation regime. Ukraine had volunteer SS divisions, with full throated ideological support of Naziism, ethnic cleansing massacres, and managing extermination camps.
Stalin's invasion of Poland was done under alliance (complicity of action in exchange for their inaction) with UK/France to protect from imminent NAZI/German expansion east of Poland, which still came. If countries making treaties/agreements with Hitler makes them German allies, then the major western European powers were also German allies no matter how fundamentally opposed they and USSR (core German Nazi ideology was anti-communist, with the Jewish problem incidental to they supporting any ideology other than nazi fascist oppression, of which communism was the leading ideological solution at the time) were in opposing/disapproving of Hitler.
The path of USSR/west alliance against Germany was already set, and it is simply pure anti-Russia demonism to continue to revise history today to pretend Nazi Germany and USSR were great friends.
French did still have the Vichy collaborators
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vichy_France
And if things has gone slightly differently in the USA we could have become the nazis greatest allies.
Of course OP doesn't actually care about anything of that just want to score internet points
if things has gone slightly differently in the USA we could have become the nazis greatest allies.
Tough call. Occupation became less popular with economic damage from tributes paid to Germany. "The conservatism" appeal always wanes when it is shown to be pure grift, and slogans shown to be empty criticisms of policy, even when the hate resonates people's internalization of the criticisms.
Idk, there were those who liked what they were doing in Germany at the time. Scary to think what would have happened if business plot worked or the pro nazi parties had won in elections then.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/jan/11/trump-fdr-roosevelt-coup-attempt-1930s
Good detail. I understand your "If USA has taken a different turn" and the specific reference that would have shaped great depression into a greater oligarchist takeover of the country including full cancel of great new deal, and then an ideology suited to allying with Hitler.
OTOH, the US liberation of France was first and only motivated to get to Berlin to stop USSR from winning everything in Europe, or at least entirety of Germany. It seems beyond rationality that US would commit troops to support Axis powers, and it was Germany that declared war on US after US declared war on Japan after Pearl Harbour, which wouldn't have hapened if US provided moral cover for Germany policies. No matter how fascist US had become, about equal to French Vishy government maximum, isolationism would have prevailed, though perhaps less support for UK/France resistance would have helped Hitler on western front, with 0 impact on losses of the eastern front.
US fascist hegemony with very direct subjugation of NATO colonies today under Trump, is only possible, because the US fascist putch of 1933 failed, and the soft subjugation of post ww2 colonialism continued to Biden, to very extremist levels under Biden.
spicy meme of the day
What can we expect from the guy who allowed Beria to carry out one of the biggest hunts on leftists in history?
P.S.: Let's not forget what they did to the Ukrainian anarchists.