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[–] NeuronautML@lemmy.ml 49 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

My first time i felt like how you feel when you're the perfect amount of tipsy. I lost inhibitions and i felt relaxed and a little euphoric. That was the first hit or any hit after a long break.

Regular smoking was more like, every time i smoked i felt more relaxed and more awake. It was like a little energy boost. You can't quite place when or what exactly happens, you just feel better and ready to go after you're done.

I have since quit smoking and a decade later i still miss it. Smoking was the perfect work pause, because it forced me to go outside and think. It also gave me a little jolt of energy and it was perfect for creative thought. I haven't quite managed to find the replacement for it, but the best I've managed was periodic walks with a notebook during work time and coffee. Also drinking water.

Smoking is terrible for your health and even though i miss it, i don't regret my decision to quit.

[–] Maestro@kbin.social 39 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That "little jolt of energy" is fake though. Smoking and its cravings simply drain you throughout the day, and that "little jolt" is just stopping the craving for a bit and feeling normal. Like, how a non-smoker feels all the time.

[–] NeuronautML@lemmy.ml 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I hear everyone repeating this, but in my own experience i was no more tired when smoking than i was after quitting. I've had the same profession, the same gymn habits, the same sleep hygiene, the same eating habits, everything the same.

Even when i was dead tired going out partying, nicotine gave me an energy jolt. So I'd have to disagree with this statement based on my own personal experience. For me nicotine always acted like a stimulant first and foremost.

[–] Brosplosion@lemm.ee 23 points 1 year ago

Yea I don't know how people in this thread are pretending nicotine isn't a stimulant.

[–] FierroGamer@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

I don't know about energy (I feel like you must be right about that), but when I made research on smoking for school, I remember that pretty much all of the positive feelings were (according to what research suggested) just the attenuation of the effects it created in the first place.

I also remember that those negative effects could last very long to the point an ex smoker could feel some of them for weeks, even longer if we count psychological effects and not just physical. Haven't brushed up on the topic on at least a decade so I could be wrong, but I'm biased towards it being the most heinous thing because I really hate smoking.

[–] Sargteapot 1 points 1 year ago

Yes and no, for me the jolt is real but is caused by the lack of energy from the cravings. So I notice the jolt because of the lack of energy but that is only bringing me back to "normal" where when I quit smoking my energy levels are "normal" but I don't get a boost from anything.

Results may vary

[–] NOPper@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was up to 2 packs a day before I quit years ago,and can definitely say that jolt was real. Nicotine is a stimulant after all.Its been something like 17 years and I still miss it sometimes.

I can understand wanting to slap down any upside as a non-smoker, but we can't just make stuff up.

[–] Maestro@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

I'm an ex smoker too. 20 years a pack or more per day. Zero cravings. I don't miss it at all.

As I understand it, nicotine is a stimulant only if your body isn't used to it. Your body adapts very fast to it (which is also why it's so addictive).

[–] reflex@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

All so true!

Also the cigarette after big meals—felt like it pushed the food down and eased the discomfort of a full stomach.

[–] Pharmacokinetics@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I smoked for 9 months because I wanted to look cool. After school, I quit immediately because I noticed how cringe it is to pay so much for some dry leaves that give you cancer.

[–] BruceTwarzen@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago

Smoking is pretty cringe. I used to think it's cool. Somehow i saw someone with a cigarette and thought: cool guy. Then i got older. I could legally buy cigarettes, i didn't live at home anymore, there was no rush because you kight get caught. I knew people back then who said: "i'll quit when it's 5bucks a packet. Now it's very close to 10, they still smoke. It smells absolutely disgusting to everyone that doesn't smoke, not the smoke, the breath that smells like whatever you ate before, but dead and rotten. I had a co-worker who would smoke 10 cigarettes according to him. It was more like 20+ but i let him the illusion. He liked to eat a tuna sandwich and drink redbull every day. I can't even put in words how that man smelled. His car smelled like a cancer factory and it was kinda weird seeing child seats in a car like that. (i grew up in the 80's so it wasn't unfamiliar, just weird.)

And that isn't even the worst part. I don't really care if people stink and get cancer, they are all old enough, but the garbage every single smojer leaves behind is absolutely unacceptable, and yet it got completely accepted by society.

[–] Bonehead@kbin.social 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Every time I've tried smoking tobacco, I've broken into a cold sweat, collapsed into a puddle on the ground, and barely had any strength to move for 6 to 8 hours while experiencing the worst dizziness of my life. I've never heard of anyone else that experiences this. I don't know exactly why this is, but it's been the best anti-smoking incentive. Weed, of course, is a different story.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 16 points 1 year ago

Maybe you're just really sensitive to nicotine

[–] quicksand@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

You're lucky in that way. The one time I tried heroin I just got nauseous and super itchy. I see it as a blessing now. Other drugs took hold of me for a while in the past, but I'm grateful that one didn't appeal to me

[–] Killing_Spark@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

I have a similar thing. Not as intense though. I always have to ask if they cut the joint with tobacco.

[–] hperrin@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

I guess the answer to his question would be that other people didn't necessarily react the same way he did.

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Anon learns that different bodies interact with drugs differently

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Honestly I took some fat rips off a high concentration nicotine vapor and barely experienced a thing. Slightly dizzy I think? Is there a vast disparity in how nicotine affects people?

[–] Knusper@feddit.de 7 points 1 year ago

OOP might have also just been affected by the actual smoke...

[–] gila@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

For me it felt like being relaxed and focused. Used to work breakfast service in a kitchen and smoking beforehand made me feel more prepared for it mentally. That goes away though and you just keep doing it to avoid feeling agitated/restless

[–] sbv@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago

I tried smoking once. My tongue tasted terrible for like twenty minutes.

[–] pigup@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Something about a camel

[–] unreachable@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

when the smoke loses its "cool factor"

[–] Demdaru@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Heh, I just lived with smokers so when I tried i got none the benefits and all the normal cons. My body was too used to it by second hand smoking. I guess I should thank my family, cuz I don't smoke now due to this...simply saw it as a waste of money.

[–] lobster_irl@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

Haha same for me, I was like… ok? No coughing, no buzz, just a very familiar taste and meh.

I hit a FWBs vape, out of curiosity and found that spinning, dizzy sensation so pleasant I bought the strongest vape I could find the next day. Hit it like crazy for a month, and have been trying to quit ever since.