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[–] Takapapatapaka@lemmy.world 24 points 11 months ago (2 children)

We should calm down attacks on db0 as well as on anti-tankies, it leads to this bs. The db0 user agrees that China is trying to erase their culture by doing bad things to Uyghurs, and just want to disengage, that's something we gotta respect. They never show acceptation of the fallacious .ml comment, on the contrary disengaging shows exasperation from it. It is only a disagreement on terms caused by hesitation on what to deduce between us propaganda and china propaganda, and yet they are treated as the enemy.

Yes genocide denial is bad, but putting them in the same box as .ml is bad too and may be a self-fulfilling prophecy.

[–] rockerface@lemmy.cafe 16 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Really, the only db0 user I've seen actively supporting tankies (such as deleting comments calling out .ml bozos on their bullshit) is Unruffled. Most of that instance is still against them, or so I'd like to believe.

[–] s@piefed.world 13 points 11 months ago

Unruffled is famously very easily ruffled

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If they are content with supreme leader davels regularly posting in their community, then they're tankies or content with sharing their spaces with tankies.

Tankie bar

[–] rockerface@lemmy.cafe 9 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Yeah I remember when Davel and Cowbee were clowned on every time they showed up there. I miss those times.

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago

Now you have users fleeing from them lol

[–] zzx@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

I fucking hate that davel guy.

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

You've never commented or voted on here before. What are you doing speaking for this community? Account that has been inactive for two months. I wonder what your main account is.

Either way, tankie bar anecdote.

Db0 keeps working with tankies, but what they won’t accept is that if you sit down at a table with nazis, the only thing that’s changed is the number of nazis at the table.

They're tankies until they disavow them.

[–] Takapapatapaka@tarte.nuage-libre.fr 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Seems like you edited to remove the account part, that was a good move, this is my main, the other one was my old one that's still on the phone.

Other than that, you're right to call out the lack of critics from db0 admins/mods and general community towards tankies, but this is still a bad example to my eyes. We cannot blame someone for disengaging, especially a regular user with a good reason.

[–] SparroHawc@lemmy.zip 2 points 11 months ago

And especially when Davel is replying to 'This is the tankie talking point, which is wrong' with 'BUT THAT TALKING POINT IS WRONG'

[–] eatham@aussie.zone 15 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Unless that is the instance owner/ admin, don't assume the instance as a whole is tankie it's probably just that user

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 4 points 11 months ago

Tell that to the db0 instance, which insists we're a nazi community because a single user dared speak out against them.

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 12 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

correct me if I'm wrong but irelephant is not db0. that user is not even an admin there

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago

db0 as in the instance

[–] Sidyctism2@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What even is this post? How does any of this imply lemmy.ml owns db0? Recently it seems like there are more and more posts on MoG that are just incredibly hyperbolic

[–] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 3 points 11 months ago

I think the amount of caps in the titles and the hyperbole do more harm than good, yeah.

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 8 points 11 months ago

'We're not tankies!'

'Supreme leader?! I apologise, I must go! Disengage!'

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

lemmy.dbzer0.com is owned by dbzer0

[–] SadJustSad@sh.itjust.works -2 points 11 months ago

Oh nooooo. I guess you will have to post about it 24/7 for the rest of your life now

[–] Mubelotix@jlai.lu -3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Sorry, what's your stance on Palestine @goat? I remember you being pro-genocide

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I consider it a genocide, and I'm critical of Israel's actions. I support Macron's plan for peace.

[–] Mubelotix@jlai.lu 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago

that's okay, there's a lot of misinformation circling around