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[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 131 points 11 months ago

The performance was held at the Paradiso Grote Zaal. The venue released a statement on Sunday saying it “believed in the power of artistic freedom”.

“Music – and especially punk – is an art form that traditionally magnifies anger, discontent, and injustice without a filter,” it said.

“In a world on fire, artists sometimes choose language that sounds confrontational or violent.”

Addressing the singer’s calls for the death of IDF troops, the venue said it shared “the outrage and concern surrounding the genocidal violence taking place in Gaza” and that “Bob Vylan’s raising his voice against this is legitimate and necessary”.

Punk has always been anti-fascist because fascists and punks compete for the same follower base, and overlap is unavoidable unless one side draws a very hard line about what's acceptable.

The fascists want to be able to say whatever they want under 1st amendment, but have always lost their shit when people say the same shit about fascists the fascists say about innumerable target demographics.

[-] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 58 points 11 months ago

"death death to the idf" =/= "death to idf troops"

and i'm tired of outlets reporting on it like it is. the man was saying the idf is a criminal organization that needs to be resisted and disbanded. yeah, that's gonna result in some fighting because the idf are a violent and vile organization of oppressors, but in the context, "death death to the idf" is the only reasonable stance…

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[-] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 10 points 11 months ago

NAZI PUNKS FUCK OFF!

[-] blackris@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 11 months ago

We are not used to venues that make reasonable statements without trying to slither out of every responsibility. This is pretty amazing.

[-] CircaV@lemmy.ca 88 points 11 months ago

Mock away, the dude was fash trash.

[-] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 28 points 11 months ago

DONT MOCK TOO HARD OR YOURE CENSORED

Anyways, only good nazi is feeding sunflowers.

[-] CircaV@lemmy.ca 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

TF?! If that happened to you FordBeeblebrox I’m surprised my post (which included verbatim quotes from thumb no-head baby teeth) wasn’t also taken down. 🤷🤷🤷

[-] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago

Mine was “death death to the IDF,” the slogan Bob Vylan (ya know, the group mentioned in the OP article) was most in the news for recently.

Fucking delete it again and ban me, I ain’t gonna stop chanting it. Just cause it’s a theme song don’t make it not true

[-] CircaV@lemmy.ca 7 points 11 months ago
[-] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Is cuma liomsa foc faoi aon Gharda!

[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Enjoyer of political violence falls victim to political violence. Oh no! /s

If these guys were themselves pacifists who prided themselves on giving every idea a fair hearing, I guess I would have a problem with any assassinations. As it is, there's just one side trying to unilaterally manifest a certain level of civility. One that unfortunately doesn't seem to exist.

Edit: I believe this complies with rule 6. Lack of concern about violence isn't the same thing as advocacy.

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[-] CrazyHorse@lemmy.cafe 39 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Another source: https://www.dutchnews.nl/2025/09/protest-and-palestine-centre-stage-at-bob-vylan-paradiso-show/

Their upcoming concert at 013 (Tilburg, this Tuesday) has been cancelled over this: https://nos.nl/artikel/2582452-poppodium-013-schrapt-show-bob-vylan-na-gewelddadige-uitspraken-in-paradiso

Edit: Their upcoming concert at Doornroosje (Nijmegen, this Monday) has not (yet?) been cancelled.

[-] Zombie@feddit.uk 5 points 11 months ago

Thanks for the second source. The Telegraph is a right wing rag.

[-] CrazyHorse@lemmy.cafe 2 points 11 months ago

I was not aware, thanks for pointing that out. Will put them on my blacklist.

[-] detren@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago

Absolutely based Paradiso and shameful 013.

[-] WanderWisley@lemmy.world 27 points 11 months ago

Hey Charlie have you heard this one? *bang!

[-] krunklom@lemmy.zip 16 points 11 months ago
[-] chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago

Lynch your leaders.

[-] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 15 points 11 months ago

Well, the Right is trying to make Kirk into a new Horst Wessel figure, so I'm registering this is as a based attempt to keep the Overton Window at its current position.

Free speech, bitches.

[-] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 3 points 11 months ago

He needs a more Murican martyr name: Instead of Horst Wessel, how about Horse Asshole.

[-] Frog@lemmy.ca 9 points 11 months ago

A pogrom is a violent riot incited with the aim of massacring or expelling an ethnic or religious group, usually applied to attacks on Jews.

Wikipedia: Pogrom

I never seen this word before. I'm going to post it here just in case you haven't either.

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[-] Naich@lemmings.world 8 points 11 months ago

Good for them.

[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 11 months ago

They've really carved out a niche as being just outside the level of militancy that's politically correct. Punk is back, I guess.

[-] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 11 months ago

the post I had commented this on was deleted so I'm going to put it here for no reason.

I hold the following opinions:

  1. political violence is probably a bad idea. this is for multiple reasons, one of which being that it usually doesn't create the intended effects.

  2. charlie kirk might have been the worst piece of shit commentator of that era. i'm glad he shut the fuck up.

  3. there are a lot of political commentators like him. the benefit of having one less of them is overshadowed by the detriment of the reaction to a political assassination.

  4. his family is the absolute least of my concerns. i don't think about them at all.

[-] TribblesBestFriend@startrek.website 2 points 11 months ago
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