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Saw this in my adguard home query logs.

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[-] simpolomeo@piefed.blahaj.zone 237 points 1 year ago

the crypto browser? it's not private and never was

[-] Scavenger8294@feddit.org 5 points 1 year ago

better than stock chrome or edge. Not better than Mullvad Browser.

[-] SwooshBakery624@programming.dev 150 points 1 year ago

Why I recommend against Brave - Luca Bramè.

This article is a pretty good breakdown of why you shouldn't use Brave.

[-] Blackfeathr@lemmy.world 136 points 1 year ago

That's the lie they try to sell you.

I swear Brave ran a very successful guerrilla marketing campaign and it succeeded on Reddit. If you so much as question it or suggest an alternative, you get dogpiled on by Brave bros. I don't trust it one bit. I'll stick to FF and its forks.

[-] barnaclebutt@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago

Yeah, haven't they done a ton of shady shit? I always cringe when people recommend the Brave browser. It's like recommending a free VPN.

[-] grue@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago

Brave is a protection racket wrapped in a cryptocurrency scam, created by a bigoted fuckwit. It is fractally shit.

[-] Tenderizer78@lemmy.ml 28 points 1 year ago

Apparently Brave's got some cryptocurrency components, so I guess that's where the cult-like following is.

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[-] BCBoy911@lemmy.ca 92 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Just use Firefox for gods sakes, Brave is a complete joke of a browser especially when it comes to privacy.

Yeah, doing any kind of digging into Brave will immediately send up warning flares that the privacy claims are pure fluff. Just use Firefox or Librewolf.

[-] donalonzo@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago

Firefox is great. Librewolf if you're extra keen on privacy.

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[-] 0xtero@beehaw.org 78 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Brave (the company) has a long history of doing dodgy stuff. They are just trying to do what Google did (directing clicks to their own shit), but they're using privacy as their marketing spiel.

[-] Solumbran@lemmy.world 67 points 1 year ago
[-] Roidecoeur@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Can you suggest a better alternative browser for android?

[-] luxliminal@piefed.social 23 points 1 year ago
[-] Mikina@programming.dev 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

~~How does IronFox compare to LibreWolf?~~

Am dumb, missed the "for android" part.

[-] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 year ago

I use IronFox too, but I'd say depending on your goal even Fennec+uBlockOrigin is a pretty good setup.

If you want to go chromiun-based then Cromite (similar in scope to IronFox).

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[-] warmaster@lemmy.world 52 points 1 year ago
[-] irmadlad@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

I've never really had a comfortable feeling about Brave. I have no substantiating evidence, it just seems a bit squirrely. Besides the Tor browser, LibreWolf, Waterfox, and FireFox are the only acceptable browsers as far as I'm concerned, tho I don't come down on those seeking an alternative to Google Chrome.

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[-] dangrousperson@feddit.org 47 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

From Wiki:

Brave Software was founded in 2015 by Brendan Eich, creator of JavaScript and former Mozilla CEO who left the organization after coming under fire for his support of eliminating the right of same-sex couples to marry [...]

and

In August 2016, the company had received at least US$7 million in angel investments from venture capital firms, including Peter Thiel's Founders Fund [...]

Should tell you everything you need to know.

I'd say being 'privacy focused' is just a stick to get non-tech savy/gullible people that want to protect their privacy to use it, without thinking about it twice. Personally, I believe there is 0% chance they don't sell (or simply give) all data they can to Peter Thiel and Palantir.

[-] Zerush@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago

....also to Facebook, also one of the investors. Brave has good privacy protections, but they are selective.

[-] vrighter@discuss.tchncs.de 40 points 1 year ago

no, brave is just another crypto scam

[-] irotsoma@lemmy.blahaj.zone 38 points 1 year ago

No. At least not in the way most people expect.

It does block some tracking and ads that Chrome alone allows or explicitly adds. But it simply shifts that tracking to Brave. The idea was that you'd still get the benefits of that tracking by giving all of your data to Brave instead. I honestly never was convinced by this considering your data is still being sold, just by a different company so it doesn't sound much better to me. Supposedly, according to them, Brave is more trustworthy and gives you more control over what they track and sell, but I don't trust that business model. There's no real incentive for them to do what they said they would.

[-] BakerBagel@midwest.social 25 points 1 year ago

Isn't Brave just a crypto scam? I have no clue why people trust it so much

[-] BCBoy911@lemmy.ca 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It gets pushed often by reactionaries as an "anti-woke" browser LOL its a complete piece of shit. It's got crypto, tracking, NFTs, AI and ads baked in. Literally everything I hate about the tech industry rolled up into one package. I'd rather use Chrome, even.

[-] irmadlad@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

anti-woke

I find it quite interesting those who protest being woke. The word 'woke' has a long standing meaning to the Black community. The usual suspects using the word 'anti-woke' are almost always American Republicans, and their track record of racial animosity has preceded itself for generations like the stench of a rotting corpse. Given the choice between being woke or asleep, I'll take woke any day.

[-] Core_of_Arden@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 year ago

People sadly believe so. Firefox, a few addons and you are good to go.

[-] Melody@lemmy.one 19 points 1 year ago

No.

It sold out on it's privacy promise years ago. Brave Browser CANNOT be trusted if you are someone who must ensure Privacy Preserving featurs must remain on at all times.

I recommend the Tor Browser. DO NOT USE THE TOR BROWSING CAPABILITIES OF BRAVE! YOU WILL BE DEANONYMIZED! Likely anything you'd be using Tor for, you don't want your browser slipping up and leaking anything.

Personally I use a blend of hand-hardened Firefox (Via plugins), Librewolf and Ungoogled Chromium (for very rare cases where the site is actually trusted and requires Chrome to function predictably)

[-] mariusafa@lemmy.sdf.org 17 points 1 year ago

Brave is like the ExpressVPN of browsers

[-] that_leaflet@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

It’s more private but doesn’t have 0 telemetry. You can disable some telemetry in settings. But it still has to make requests for update checks if using Windows or MacOS.

[-] BaroqueInMind@piefed.social 17 points 1 year ago

I'm a grown adult and can check for updates my own damn self. This phone-home telemetry in the guise of updating bullshit needs to stop

[-] Junkers_Klunker@feddit.dk 34 points 1 year ago

Then use an actual private browser and not some techbro cryptobrowser.

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[-] url@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

Librefox then? Or what are you guys using?

[-] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 year ago

IronFox, or WebLibre which is pretty new but promising in my opinion

[-] Samsy@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

TIL, weblibre exists. Thx stranger.

For the lazy ones. https://github.com/FaFre/WebLibre

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[-] NinjaTurtle@feddit.online 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Don't a lot of browsers by default have pings set up to track usage? Check the privacy section. There is usually a check box about sending daily pings to whatever company made the browser to track usage.

Not sure about the variations though

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[-] kepix@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

even tho most low level searches and recommendations gonna point towards brave as the private browser, all you need to just look at the options. its datafarming, its running in the background randomly, its an nftbro chrome.

[-] artyom@piefed.social 10 points 1 year ago

You can disable this in the settings. Nobara ships with Brave now but with all of the telemetry and crypto BS turned off out of the box.

[-] goatmeal@midwest.social 10 points 1 year ago

Idk what the first two are, but you should be able to disable the usage ping at the bottom of privacy settings

[-] wolfiedafloof@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

I tend to recommend Brave for the ones who aren't technically savvy. For that, its good.

For me who is really into privacy, I've always felt uncomfortable with brave or any chrome based browser. So I go with TOR and LibreWolf

[-] Zerush@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago

I use Vivaldi, it's IMHO the only decent Chromium browser, apart European, with a good privacy, no logs, no tracking no third party investors. great services and community.

[-] pound_heap@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 year ago

Depends on what you mean by "private". I would not trust it much, but it's not a bad Chromium based browser when you need one. Use something like LibreWolf for much more privacy out of the box.

[-] monovergent@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

For the best privacy when you do need a Chromium-based browser, the ungoogled-chromium flatpak is an excellent choice.

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