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[-] Almacca@aussie.zone 195 points 11 months ago

I tell ya, this is all just a prelude to cancelling elections.

[-] taldennz 76 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

It does start to look like another step on the journey to the land of "you won't need to vote"

Weed out politic nay-sayers directly... we're already seeing some of that going on.

Then make being a member of the armed-forces ideologically untenable for those who aren't worshipping orange. Trump's actions must be impacting the national-pride aspect of serving for some (and changing the political disposition at the recruiting office).

If this is effective, in three years, maybe you'll have a military significantly dominated by active supporters (or at least fence-sitters)... Now that opens up some options.

[-] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 33 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Except you will actually lose a significant number of your military force to do that. Who is going to replace the ones who leave? The majority of MAGA die-hards aren't actually physically fit enough or able to stop using meth long enough to actually cut it in the military. To keep troop levels what they're at (which is definitely not enough to wrangle the whole nation) they'd have to drastically reduce physical fitness and drug abuse standards.

Germany took Europe with about 18 million soldiers throughout the entire war, and Europe had about 540 million citizens overall before World War 2. US has around just over 2 million soldiers (with only 10% in "boots on the ground" combat roles) with about 350 million citizens, all of which are far more spread out over the US than they were in Europe.

The ability for the US military to occupy and hold it's own nation is absurdly low, honestly, imho.

Evidence to support my assertion: https://www.military.com/daily-news/2022/09/28/new-pentagon-study-shows-77-of-young-americans-are-ineligible-military-service.html

Pentagon study from 2020: "A new study from the Pentagon shows that 77% of young Americans would not qualify for military service without a waiver due to being overweight, using drugs or having mental and physical health problems."

[-] DrFistington@lemmy.world 25 points 11 months ago

That's why they have a sudden tick tock deal. Control the largest source of youth propaganda, and if you delay elections long enough, you may get the 16 year old Nazi army you want

[-] lectricleopard@lemmy.world 19 points 11 months ago

That is the scariest part of this to me. There are some chronicly online young people, that were well below voting age during covid, and are now just detached from reality due to the propaganda. When I talk to people my age (40's), at least we have a common experience of the world before Obama even. Not so with some folks now. Its terrifying.

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[-] justOnePersistentKbinPlease@fedia.io 20 points 11 months ago

Incidentally, Hegseth is requiring all US military generals to meet with him in person next week.

A retired general has directly compared it to when Hitler's fuckups forced the german generals and admiralty to re-swear their oath of service, in person, from the original oath to the country and new oath directly to Hitler.

[-] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago

make being a member of the armed-forces ideologically untenable for those who aren't worshipping orange

Hegseth was talking about using Kirk's murder for recruitment.

[-] blarth@thelemmy.club 19 points 11 months ago

He is trying to incite a civil war. Russian psyops are working with him on this.

[-] WhatsHerBucket@lemmy.world 19 points 11 months ago

They won’t be cancelled, that would be unconstitutional.

Instead, ICE will be posted at polling places and intimidate people not to vote.

[-] Almacca@aussie.zone 16 points 11 months ago

Trump doesn't give a single fuck about the constitution.

[-] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 11 months ago

No, but he literally does not control elections, as they're run at the state level. It's why he's going for more work-around ideas like working to villainize things like vote-by-mail. It's the same play as it ever has been for Republicans, make it harder to vote so only the rich who support them can actually make it out to vote. Make it increasingly difficult for the lower classes to have their voices heard. The dumb yokels may be the loudest Trump supporters but one of the biggest blocs of Trump voters were business owners and other relatively wealthy citizens.

[-] grue@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago

That's why MAGAs have been making a concerted effort to systematically take over elections boards etc.

[-] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 11 months ago

Yeah it's way more likely ICE will be used to occupy cities in general. For one, they don't have the same rigorous health standards that the military does, and for two, they just massively ballooned the budget of ICE for the specific purpose of recruitment. A lot easier to get dumb easily controlled thugs that way then trying to get the military deeply involved. The military being sent out is just Trump trying to pretend he's swinging his big dick around when it actually shows how weak he must be to be doing it.

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[-] Ghyste@sh.itjust.works 18 points 11 months ago

Any excuse to declare martial law.

Anyone want to bet he says Martian law?

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[-] selkiesidhe@sh.itjust.works 111 points 11 months ago

Portland just recently broke the top 50 safest cities in the US. Just so you know what that assclown is targeting.

[-] F_State@midwest.social 37 points 11 months ago

There are a huge number of country bumpkins that saw Portland on the TV during 2020 and assumed/were mislead into believing the whole city burned down and it's just a smoldering wasteland now. The actual problems were in a relatively small area downtown; most of Portland was unaffected.

[-] AlecSadler@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 11 months ago

I work with people in the software engineering field that have mentioned wanting to visit Portland but ask me if it's safe.

I can't even.

[-] F_State@midwest.social 15 points 11 months ago

I won't lie, the city has had problems but people's online rants about it are always overblown and always from people who don't live or visit there.

[-] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 12 points 11 months ago

Plus, that was a long time ago. I drive by the Seattle "snowflakes beware" area a lot. It's just Seattleites doing their thing.

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[-] Jumbie@lemmy.zip 101 points 11 months ago

Another inch forward and we all stupidly pretend this means nothing.

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[-] xenomor@lemmy.world 59 points 11 months ago

If you are a service member, you have a responsibility to refuse illegal and immoral orders. By participating in this administration’s un-American fascist projects, you position yourself as an enemy of the constitution, an enemy of the law, an enemy of the people. We did not accept “just following orders” as a defense the last time we put down a fascist uprising, and we wont accept it this time.

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 15 points 11 months ago

Not to detract from your point, but Nazi Germany and crew were a whole lot more than an uprising. Now to actually detract from your point, the Western Allies were super lax on Nazis during the Nuremberg trials to get the West Germans on their side against the Soviets. If I was a fascist looking at history to figure out whether I'd come out of post-facto trials unscathed, I'd feel pretty good about my chances.

[-] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 50 points 11 months ago

War ravaged? Is this part of his delusions?

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 57 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Yep. The fascist party propaganda machines (Fox, OAN, NewsMax) have been reporting that Seattle and Portland are literal war zones for years now. I live in Seattle, and when I travel to the South or the Midwest, I always get the "ohh I'm so sorry" concerned comments from people when they learn where I'm from. So many people think that the cities literally burned down entirely.

[-] someguy3@lemmy.world 20 points 11 months ago

You should ask "who's telling you this?" The follow-up is "you should ask yourself 'why are they lying to me?'"

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[-] someguy3@lemmy.world 24 points 11 months ago

Oh yeah, they think BLM burned cities to the ground and there's riots everyday and fentanyl heads on every block, broken up with the occasional roving trans kidnapping gangs.

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[-] Kurious84@lemmings.world 48 points 11 months ago

Claims to end wars and then goes to war against us.

[-] Blum0108@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago

We are an occupied nation.

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[-] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 39 points 11 months ago

What war?

"Don't worry, we brought it with us in our luggage."

[-] D_C@sh.itjust.works 38 points 11 months ago

Yet another distraction from the child rapist.

[-] missfrizzle@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 11 months ago

I'm pretty sure the Epstein files are the distraction from sending the military to conquer our own cities.

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[-] easybre_bb@lemmy.zip 35 points 11 months ago

This guy hates the constitution

[-] Formfiller@lemmy.world 29 points 11 months ago

Clearly Trump hates traditional American values like the constitution, the separation of church and state, freedom of speech and habeas corpus. I guess he should be put on his own terrorism watch list

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[-] duckworthy@sh.itjust.works 25 points 11 months ago

He’s looking for a weaker target that he thinks he can manipulate. He didn’t succeed in LA or Chicago or even DC. But he won’t succeed in Oregon either because the governors have banded together to share information and protect their citizens as much as they can. And because the people he has on the ground are incompetent. And the competent people have been unwilling to break the law for him. Most of the military and national guard are very unhappy with this stuff.

[-] DarkSpectrum@lemmy.world 21 points 11 months ago
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[-] Kurious84@lemmings.world 20 points 11 months ago

So war against ourselves it seems.

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[-] Lodespawn@aussie.zone 19 points 11 months ago

Wonder when the US military is going to move to defend the US constitution ..

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 14 points 11 months ago

Never. Literally not gonna happen. Best you're going to get is some of them joining you when the civil war begins.

[-] TwinTitans@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago

What a complete and total waste of money. Your money.

[-] TemplaerDude@sh.itjust.works 15 points 11 months ago

Hello Americans, this is fascism!! It’s right here!!

[-] Juice@midwest.social 13 points 11 months ago

Really? Lets vote and consume about it

[-] kingofras@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago
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[-] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago

"Yes he is bad but he can't be as bad as Hitler"

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[-] BigMacHole@sopuli.xyz 13 points 11 months ago

I'm a PATRIOT and I Voted for Trump because I Wanted to go to WAR With AMERICA!

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[-] shittydwarf@piefed.social 12 points 11 months ago

To get the Trump/Epstein files?

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