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[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@startrek.website 60 points 1 year ago (3 children)

You can feel the consistency of the current userbase, especially in the more active communities. I'm glad to see it.

[–] Carnelian@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It’s been awesome watching things grow, and seeing the community develop its own personality, beans and all

[–] Corgana@startrek.website 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah for a while Lemmy kinda felt like we-have-Reddit-at-home but nowadays I'm reminded of how it felt in Reddit's early days (ie: less exhausting), but older and wiser.

[–] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

"Reddit at home" -- felt like that until I started using a client.

It's pretty dang good here. If I forget that, all I have to do is go back to Reddit for five minutes and I'm reminded of how shit that site is.

[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago

Yeah, my participation was pretty sporadic until I found Voyager. It’s so much like Apollo was, I no longer pine for reddit at all. The only thing missing is robust mod tools, but I’m sure they’ll come along.

Lemmy feels like vintage reddit now.

[–] Corgana@startrek.website 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's my hope that decentralization and federation can help preserve much of the small-sub vibes while scaling up.

[–] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It helps, too, that the instances aren't chasing profit.

[–] Corgana@startrek.website 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah exactly I honestly I think that's the single biggest factor in what makes the fediverse superior

[–] porthos@startrek.website 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

You can make a social network profitable or you can make it healthy for its users, but I am entirely unconvinced you can do both.

Maintaining social networks and moderating them should be a legitimate job where people are meaningfully rewarded for their effort, but that is different.

[–] Corgana@startrek.website 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm with you 100%, but I'm also becoming convinced that the quality of work from volunteer moderators who are members of the community and are motivated by maintaining the health of said community is going to be significantly better than the efforts of someone who is paid to do the same thing.

[–] porthos@startrek.website 3 points 1 year ago

Well I am fine with that but let us not unintentionally extract the passion for the fediverse out of amazing people by expecting them to do difficult work without supporting them in a way that is sustainable.

[–] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Maybe one can do both, balancing them to some degree. Maybe. For a short time. But it seems we have several examples suggesting that maximizing short term profit can only come at the expense of a healthy, valued user experience.

Profit is so often at cross purposes with anything good or nice or enjoyable.

[–] Toto@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Not getting downvoted for unknown reasons feels good here at Lemmy.

[–] squiblet@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

The circlejerkiness of downvoting has increased since I was first on here, when people were more likely to respond with conversation than just a downvote of disdain (or my fave, people who downvote each reply in a conversation as they reply back). But there's less random downvotes of disapproval than reddit. Esp. on kbin which doesn't federate downvotes from other instances, ha.

[–] CeruleanRuin@lemmings.world 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If you still care about downvotes at all, you're not internetting right. Complaining about downvotes gets an automatic downvote from me, dawg.

[–] Toto@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Misunderstanding a comment, taking the time to comment and downvoting. Yup, starting to feel like Reddit.

[–] crashoverride@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The only thing that sucks that some of the smaller subs don't really have them active user base over here, so I'm still forced to use Reddit for those

[–] Khrux@ttrpg.network 1 points 1 year ago

I often find that if I'm having an issue or want general answers about something, I still stick "reddit" at the end of the search, but I never just open it to browse niche subs even though I am missing the equivalent here.

[–] CeruleanRuin@lemmings.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm so glad the Trek communities moved here from reddit. Whenever I go back there it just feels empty somehow, in spite of the still much larger userbase.

Someone just had to mention that Federation was involved, and that's all it took.

[–] eva_sieve@startrek.website 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The shitposters of c/risa : "we're doing our part!"

[–] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 23 points 1 year ago

So all people I reply to and see here are like one big village, minus alts and nsfw accounts. It's not bad. For once, I started to recognize persons behind a half of quality risa posts, like I did with niche reddit subs before. That's what I want from a community, too see it tight-knit and filled with dedicated posters. It feels healthy and encourages to participate.

[–] canis_majoris@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's like the entire site is the size of a small subreddit.

[–] Corgana@startrek.website 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

36k is referring to daily active users, not total accounts, so the whole network is more comperable to a single medium-large subreddit.

[–] canis_majoris@lemmy.ca 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm happy with that, honestly.

I have quality conversations with quality users because it hasn't been diluted.

[–] RGB3x3@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

I miss the larger conversations on smaller communities that Reddit had, just due to its size as a site. For example, r/BeachHouse or r/HighQualityGifs or any miscellaneous game subreddit.

But I'd bet Lemmy can get there over time. It'll just be fairly slow-going at first.

[–] CeruleanRuin@lemmings.world 1 points 1 year ago

Which is weirdly ideal, if what you want is a sense of actual community.

Once you get to metropolitan numbers, you get the same paradoxical disconnectedness that you find in a densely-populated city.

[–] newtraditionalists@beehaw.org 6 points 1 year ago

Very cool. Happy to be here and enjoying helping the community grow!