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Windows 11 adds native support for RAR, 7-Zip, Tar and other archive formats thanks to open-source library::undefined

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[–] stagen@feddit.dk 100 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Still gonna use 7zip, the default Windows packing/unpacking interface is atrocious.

[–] vithigar@lemmy.ca 77 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Honestly though if they just added "extract to {archivename}\" as a right click option it would cover more than 90% of my usage.

[–] Sowhatever@discuss.tchncs.de 48 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I love KDE's "extract here, autodetect folder" feature for compressed files

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[–] lemann@lemmy.one 12 points 1 year ago

Literally the reason why 7 zip is the first thing I install on a windows machine.

All the linux file managers I use have that context menu built in, so nothing else to install 😅 except that I also sometimes use 7zip file manager via WINE because I like a GUI

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[–] pHr34kY@lemmy.world 76 points 1 year ago (39 children)

I wonder how long before I can send someone a .7z file without "hurr durr I can't open this".

Like, OpenDocument support exists in Office 2003 and I still encounter those who can't open a .odt file.

[–] MaxVoltage@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

#2040 take or leave it

[–] elscallr@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

I just tell them to install 7zip. I'm not working around your inadequacy.

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[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 66 points 1 year ago (2 children)

God I'm so sick of Musk spa ... wait, what? Actual technology news?

[–] Resol@lemmy.world 66 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Microsoft annonces an actually useful feature for Windows once in a blue moon basically. This is one of them.

But I still hate Windows.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 47 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It only took them 20 years to incorporate a handful of mainstream file formats as core features. Give them a medal.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 15 points 1 year ago

Maybe they'll get around to multithreaded (de)compression in another 20 years.

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[–] FrankTheHealer@lemmy.world 60 points 1 year ago (3 children)

As someone who has daily driven Linux on all my devices for about 5 years now, I actually forgot that windows didn't have built in rar, tar and 7zip support. Absolutely bonkers that it took them this long.

[–] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

they dont even have (s)ftp support built into their file explorer

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago

And Windows still balks at most common filesystems.

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[–] RoyaltyInTraining@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

To be fair, Windows now has better support than Gnome does natively. I wish they would finally give nautilus seamless archive integration...

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[–] WuTang@lemmy.ninja 50 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Microsoft loves opensource. :P

While still using proprietary API and proprietary specs for hardware... you know the thing that gets in the way of FOSS operating systems.

[–] lieuwestra@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Microsoft loves Azure, anything else is there to draw people in.

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[–] havokdj@lemmy.world 46 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Guarantee that they contributed no code back

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[–] speaker_hat@lemmy.one 39 points 1 year ago (4 children)

For history fans:

LZ77 and LZ78 are the two lossless data compression algorithms published in papers by [two Israelis named] Abraham Lempel and Jacob Ziv in 1977 and 1978... Besides their academic influence, these algorithms formed the basis of several ubiquitous compression schemes, including GIF and the DEFLATE algorithm used in PNG and ZIP.

Source: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/LZ77_and_LZ78

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[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 36 points 1 year ago

Guess now pirates have to standardise on a new proprietary format.

[–] MrFlamey@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago (3 children)

This is great, but I honestly hate the way that windows treats zips like they are just folders on your computer when they are fundamentally different, and I want to do different things with them. Sure, it's nice to be able to browse the files inside, but I can do that with 7zip.

[–] lmaydev@lemmy.world 45 points 1 year ago (9 children)

The whole point is most people don't want a third party app.

I also think for most users treating them as a normal folder makes complete sense.

Chances are you aren't the target audience of the default configuration of windows. It's aimed at people who have trouble checking their email.

[–] themurphy@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's aimed at people who have trouble checking their email.

Opening ZIP natively in folder app really is just user friendly practices. Ofc it's easier to able to browse its content that way.

You shouldn't need 3rd party software for things that simple.

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[–] orphiebaby@lemm.ee 32 points 1 year ago (17 children)

That's pretty cool. Please give us our objectively-more-efficient taskbar layouts back and I'll consider "upgrading" my desktop?

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[–] gnuplusmatt@reddthat.com 13 points 1 year ago (16 children)

If they're incorporating open libraries, Hopefully support for real filesystems will be next

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[–] lemmegogo@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Guess it's time to finally buy a WinRar license

[–] Jagger2097@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Does it support password protected archives yet?

[–] morrowind@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago

Nope, not yet

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[–] fne8w2ah@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Another actually genuine useful update, so...

TIME TO BUY A WINRAR LICENSE!!!

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