I need to go to sleep at 10 so that maybe I can fall sleep around 11, and then the opposite issue in the morning.

Apparently, people really are divided into morning and evening people. This has an evolutionary benefit because the group has a shorter time without at least one keeping an eye out.

So... Genetic treatment.

The answer is CPAP.

When you get a proper night of sleep, it's much easier to get up in the morning. Since getting a CPAP, I wake up about 8 hours after going to bed regardless of what time it is. Really helps with jet lag, too.

Turn 50.

The anxiety of not catching the train to university did it for me. Go to sleep at midnight. Wake up at 5:30 to get ready.I manage to hold up for the five days of courses.

Saturdays though? A nuke could go off and I wouldn't wake up.

8 and 4, but.... I dunno

The trick is to move to the right timezone. Simply figure where in the world your biological rhythms align, then move there. No need to worry about jet lag or alarm clocks. You will have the schedule you desire.

My body forces me to wake up at 6am and I hate it. The only classes I could take to fill out my degree mean I get home at 9, barely enough time to make dinner / clean the house / have free time AND get 8 hours of sleep. Doesn't matter if I go to sleep at 2am, I'll still wake up at 6 and feel like crap. Everyone I know acts like I'm a weirdo for hopping off a group chat to wind down at 9. The times I've been lucky enough to have a schedule that works for me it becomes clear that I'm the only alert person in the room at noon.

Y'all complain that you can't do anything in the morning without sacrificing your health. I wish I could take that instead of losing my evenings. Grass is always greener.

I wish I could bottle or teach my ability to fall asleep quickly and completely. I'd be filthy rich. Sorry, everyone. I am the odd one out.

Picking up birding as a hobby is a great way to get up early. The best shots are right after the sun comes up and right before it goes down.

Get a cat, play with the cat or give it a treat at 9 pm. The cat will enforce bedtime

Wait until the next level though, where your bedtime is as soon as you fucking can and you wake up multiple times during the night to pee or just because.

I go to bed at 10, get up at 2, watch TV for an hour, go back to bed and get up at 8-830

Why would you want to? No reason to work against yourself. Learn your body rhythm and try to create a life that supports it.

I need to get to work at 7:30a. I used to complain about it, but eventually I got used to winding down at 9:30p and going to bed by 10.

Set my alarm, get up early and go to work.

It sucked at first, but you get used to it.

Also, I have a big cup of coffee in the morning, that helps.

Simple: exhaust yourself enough over several days until you do that naturally.

Work so fucking hard during the day, to utter exhaustion , every muscle in your body is trembling from overexertion & your brain is exhausted too. You finally get home, take a shower, and as soon as your head hits the pillow you are OUT. You will sleep DEEPLY and wake up refreshed and ready to do it all over again.

Ask me how I know 😜

Never had any issue falling asleep anywhere between midnight and 8 a.m. and still getting a full restful 6 to 9 hour sleep when I worked late or overnight shifts. Now I work 8-5 because that is where the well paying jobs are and I've been sleep deprived for a couple decades.

Falling asleep in the evening to early night just doesn't work for me for whatever reason. I tried going to bed at 10:00 for a year with only a few successes that meant I woke up at 4 a.m. and couldn't get back to sleep.

Exercise is key

You need go to bed at 8 PM and get up at 5 AM though

Honestly, they day just knocks it out of me. I'm literally in bed by 9:10ish and don't really fall asleep until sometimes around 10. Commuting an hour each way just really sucks any life out of me.