Hamas Official Ghazi Hamad: We Will Repeat The October 7 Attack, Time And Again, Until Israel Is Annihilated : worldnews

[-] zephyreks@lemmy.ml 27 points 2 years ago

MEMRI is run by (former) Israeli intelligence and has been panned for being blatantly anti-Muslim: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2002/aug/12/worlddispatch.brianwhitaker

[-] fosforus@sopuli.xyz -5 points 2 years ago

Ah, thanks for the information. The guy is real though: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghazi_Hamad

[-] zib@kbin.social 23 points 2 years ago

And this is the big long-term problem with Israel's campaign of open genocide. They don't care how many innocents are killed as long as they wipe out Hamas, but in the process, they're inspiring more fanaticism in the region and fueling Hamas and other similar groups. Both Hamas and the Israeli government are terrorist organizations and they have a symbiotic relationship. The only real losers here are the innocent people caught in the middle.

[-] Dildade41@lemm.ee 17 points 2 years ago

Forgive my uninformed position here, but I'm sure they are aware that you can't defeat terrorism by murdering the ever living piss-fuck out of everyone. There must be another motivation for just killing everyone.

[-] SheeEttin@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago

Taking their land. It's easier when there's no one to displace.

[-] chepox@sopuli.xyz 6 points 2 years ago

Is taking their land effective though? Wouldn't it just spawn cells within the newly acquired territory or other regions and continue?

So much hate can only spawn more hate.

[-] SheeEttin@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

Not in the formerly Palestinian territory, because all the Palestinians would be dead.

In other areas, such as nearby majority Muslim countries like Lebanon and Syria, yes, but then Israel could argue that they were being attacked as a nation, even more like 9/11 than the Oct 7th attack. They could use that as justification for strikes into those countries, since everyone let the US do it in Iraq and Afghanistan.

It just depends on how much they want to go for the military victory.

[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

That's the best part then you can steal more land! israel just keeps magically gaining land! The ever expanding lebensraum for the chosen people!

[-] TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

Taking their land is how this all started

[-] nonailsleft@lemm.ee 11 points 2 years ago

Lots of nations were succesful by murdering everyone

[-] ikidd@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Staying ahead of corruption trials.

[-] stella@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago

Revenge.

[-] stevehobbes@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

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[-] Zorque@kbin.social -1 points 2 years ago

Well... yeah? Ain't no one hear saying Hamas are the good guys. Just the second part of a two-headed parasite thats attached itself to the people if Israel/Palestine.

[-] stevehobbes@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Except there are a lot of people like the first half of the parent I replied to that have a “Israel reaped what they sowed on October 6” attitude. But somehow don’t have a similar “they have reaped what they sowed” attitude towards Gaza right now.

Which isn’t quite right.

No one wants to share their toys since 1917. Both sides have alternatingly done ugly things that are, to our modern sensibilities, probably war crimes and ethnic cleansing. Previously, it was just war.

We did the same/worse things to Native Americans. Spain and Portugal did the same/worse things to the Aztecs and Incas. Britain did the same/worse things to almost everyone.

I just don’t think either side is justified but pretending like Palestine is any more or less of a victim than Israel in this whole mess doesn’t really seem to ring true if you look at the whole history.

[-] Zorque@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

Knowing the cause of something does not excuse it. Just helps you better understand it, and how to prevent it in the future.

Saying Israel's actions have a direct relationship with Hamas activity is not supporting Hamas. Its saying their actions are antithetical to a peaceful resolution, nothing else.

[-] Cockmaster6000@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

I see you haven't seen comments from hexbear or lemmygrad

[-] stella@lemm.ee 13 points 2 years ago

Israel was given to the Jews as an 'apology' for their treatment during WW2.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-1ujiY_4C4

All Western nations agreed. All Arab nations declined.

Guess who got their way?

[-] fosforus@sopuli.xyz 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I think founding Israel where it is was a huge geopolitical mistake, but I don't know how that knowledge helps at all today when that mistake is completely solidified.

[-] stella@lemm.ee 17 points 2 years ago

It helps so people remember why Palestinians are upset in the first place.

[-] thilo@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago

Thank you. Let us start working with the status quo. Israel right now is starting to realise that netanyahu is not the right guy and palrstinians/gazans need to accept, that they are mere cettle to hamas/abbas.

Also the arab world needs to work on this compromise with the palestinians and stop using them as propaganda tools.

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[-] Zuberi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 2 years ago

Is this even real? This website is insanely biased.

[-] fosforus@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Not sure. Here's another source https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/hamas-october-7-attack-repeat-israel-annihilated-ghazi-hamad/ -- but it basically links to the original source.

The guy is famous enough to have a Wikipedia page, that lists some of his sayings: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghazi_Hamad

[-] Rawdogg@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

Your username is the same chemical Israel has used against Palestinian civilians in blatant warcrimes

[-] fosforus@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I was going for Φωσφόρος aka light-bearer aka Lucifer actually with this username. Any similarities to horrible weapons of war are accidental.

[+] Zippy@lemmy.world -9 points 2 years ago

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[-] SheeEttin@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago

While Israel is oppressing Palestinians, there will always be someone like Hamas.

[-] nakal@kbin.social -3 points 2 years ago

And if Hamas thinks that Israel does not have a right to exists and they have the right to kill everyone there, the occupation wasn't necessary. It's a vicious circle. Hamas is not in position to present themselves as victims. Their agenda is unconditional and the occupation is not the reason they kill people. They simply lie.

[-] Limitless_screaming@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

The occupation is the reason they got volunteers and supporters in the first place. What are they gonna do without those who volunteer to fight for them, and the support that they got to take control of the region?

The occupation gave them everything they needed, and even made them the people's last hope. Cannot get any more generous than that.

[-] Rawdogg@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

Why don't you fuck back off to world news on reddit, they love supporting genocide over there, you'll fit right in.

[-] thilo@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

And we all keep our own little eco chambers. You are not interessted in solving the problem but "virtue" signalling.

[-] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

You: "its easy Billy. Just kill all the terrorists."

Billy : "But wont that also kill countless civilians in the process, creating distraught and enraged people who might take up arms to be terrorists in revenge?"

You: "Of course, just keep killing and killing and killing civilians, and I'm sure eventually we will have killed enough to make that impossible."

Billy: "So...Genocide then."

You : "yes."

Real reasoned and excellent stance. Maybe Israel can fight a 8 trillion dollar forever war for 20 years that kills millions like the US did, and still have Hamas. What a good idea.

[+] DmMacniel@feddit.de -19 points 2 years ago

I mean ... they certainly have the spirit of a warrior... too bad that they in the body of squirrels.

[-] lmaydev@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago

How is threatening to murder civilians "the spirit of a warrior"

[-] PsychedSy@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago

He didn't say which warrior. Most warriors in history did the murder men rape women thing. Popular ideas of a warrior and reality don't always jive.

[-] OprahsedCreature@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

...okay I'll bite: Why squirrels?

[-] DmMacniel@feddit.de -5 points 2 years ago

for no reason, wanted something smol and cuddly.

[-] RickyRigatoni@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago

Squirrels will fuck you up, dude.

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