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[-] GreenShimada@lemmy.world 228 points 10 months ago

STOP CALLING IT PARANOIA! FFS, This stuff is being used to track people that go to protests.

404 needs to shove their paranoia and normalize using truth and real words and not hedging like CNN or something.

[-] utopiah@lemmy.ml 10 points 10 months ago

I don't disagree so curious, what would be your title instead?

[-] chillpanzee@lemmy.ml 72 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Zenni eyewear: the urban surveillance countermeasure you didn't know you need.

-or-

Why the feds and Wal Mart hate Zenni eyewear.

[-] Dampyr@piefed.social 24 points 10 months ago

Or just to change the obnoxious adjective

"Zenni’s Anti-Facial Recognition Glasses are Eyewear for Our Dystopian Age"

[-] GreenShimada@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago

Replace "paranoid" with "highly surveilled." Just say what it is.

Easy swap out.

[-] paequ2@lemmy.today 39 points 10 months ago
[-] Gstocklein@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 23 points 10 months ago

Pretty wild getting hit with a message to accept all cookies.

[-] irmadlad@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

Huh. I didn't get a notice to accept cookies. The only thing I have enabled in their stack is:

  • zennioptical.com <---enabled
  • static.zennioptical.com<---enabled
  • www.zennioptical.com<---enabled
  • ~~adn.cloud~~
  • ~~tags.pw.adn.cloud~~
  • ~~affirm.com~~ <----probably the culprit
  • ~~cdn1.affirm.com~~ <----probably the culprit
  • ~~algolia.net~~
  • ~~hf4kjv5rn3-dsn.algolia.net~~
  • ~~algolianet.com~~
  • ~~hf4kjv5rn3-1.algolianet.com~~
  • ~~hf4kjv5rn3-2.algolianet.com~~
  • ~~hf4kjv5rn3-3.algolianet.com~~
  • b.akamaiedge.net<---enabled
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[-] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 10 months ago

"All-in-one defense across the light spectrum —reflects near-infrared light, filters blue light, blocks 100% UV rays, and is light-adaptive for all-day comfort."

Apart from defending against facial recognition, this is really dope.

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[-] quick_snail@feddit.nl 20 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Please dont link to paywalled articles, unless you paste the whole article contents in the post

[-] irmadlad@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago

So, how are these different that wearing a pair of very dark, wrap around sunglasses?

[-] SmoothIsFast@lemmy.world 32 points 10 months ago

Those don't block infrared. They're basically transparent to it.

[-] trailee@sh.itjust.works 14 points 10 months ago

I’ve been thinking for a little while that it might be interesting to build on a pair of glasses with a couple IR LEDs at either edge and a battery pack to light them up. I can’t decide if that would be good to wear to a protest because the glare would likely obscure your entire face to cameras, or if it would be a bad idea because you’d stick out immediately on any surveillance.

[-] specialwall@midwest.social 12 points 10 months ago

That would probably be more effective as a form of protest against such technologies.

[-] ToastMaster@eviltoast.org 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)
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[-] Auli@lemmy.ca 4 points 10 months ago

I don't even know if it would work. Most cameras have an IR filter they use during the day.

[-] recklessengagement@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago

There's another site that sells actual privacy sunglasses (full IR blocking + reflective frames) but they've been sold out for months.

[-] theskyisfalling@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 10 months ago

Reflectacles?

I've had two pairs of these I bought years ago but unfortunately lost one pair. Chatted with the guy when I bought them and he seemed like a sound guy. I hope being sold out means his business is doing well!

Only issue I have with them is they aren't really wide enough and I have a small head. Not that they fit badly, they aren't too tight but the design looks too small on my face that it looks a bit comedic tbh.

They are also really nice to drive in at night as they stop you from being blinded by the absurdity that is modern headlights.

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[-] Zerush@lemmy.ml 11 points 10 months ago

Version alpha

[-] mctoasterson@reddthat.com 9 points 10 months ago

I like the idea, but don't just buy these assuming you're good to go, and then walk around with a normie iPhone or Android device that phones home constantly with your precise location and device ID, SIM information etc.

There is always at least some error rate and deniability in probabilistic matching by something like facial recognition. There is a lot less deniability of your specific device ID, tied to your real identity (thanks to KYC laws), being in X location at Y time.

[-] root@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

So, these actually work great when IR is used (for example you won't be able to unlock your iPhone when wearing them), however my question is, does this help at all when just a normal photo is taken? You can wear these, have a 'normal' photo taken and it just looks like you're wearing standard glasses. That could then be fed through CV, etc?

[-] ArsonButCute@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 10 months ago
[-] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

Ma'am, this is the Internet. That's the last place I would think of checking. If it ain't in the headline, it didn't happen.

[-] grue@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Especially when the article is paywalled (or at least login-walled).

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[-] NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I can unlock my phone while wearing them.

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-I don't rely on biometrics, though.

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[-] taiyang@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

Oh, I tend to grab Zenni glasses every couple of years and saw that option. I opted against since I didn't think they were much more than a gimmick, but also at time (and probably still is) they were not compatible with the kind that auto tint in the sun.

I'm also pretty sure if I do get tracked, they have my phone and my unique appearance. I'm not sure someone of my height and build is going to be able to Luigi someone.

[-] artyom@piefed.social 5 points 10 months ago

I actually recently bought a pair of Zennis and saw this advertising before it made the rounds in the media. The advertising was extremely generic in describing how it worked.

So this is it? Just IR blocking? Like, your eyes are not your whole face. Put a pair of sunglasses on and achieve the same thing...

[-] deranger@sh.itjust.works 7 points 10 months ago

The idea is it reflects IR and blows out the exposure.

[-] Auli@lemmy.ca 4 points 10 months ago

But IR Is only on during low light conditions.

[-] deranger@sh.itjust.works 5 points 10 months ago

I’m just pointing out that it’s not IR blocking, it’s IR reflecting.

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[-] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 months ago

Videos testing these glasses show that face-id doesn't work when wearing them. This demonstrates that (at least for Apple), covering your eye area is enough to defeat IR-based facial recognition.

[-] socsa@piefed.social 4 points 10 months ago

It kind of has a red tinted layer which creates red blobs in quite a lot of different lighting conditions. Even with non IR photography, if you are standing outside or under bright lights there's a good chance any pictures will end up with red artifacts in the lenses, partially or completely obscuring your eyes.

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