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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/7758717

‘I’d Have Told Them to F*ck Off’: Succession Star Brian Cox Says AI Is a Human Rights Issue | Hollywood actors entered their 100th day on strike last week in part over demands for contractual prote...::Hollywood actors entered their 100th day on strike last week in part over demands for contractual protections against AI.

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[–] money_loo@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

Actors want their new union contracts to give them consideration and consent rights over how AI is used and adequate compensation if they decide to give producers the go-ahead.

That’s extremely reasonable and I can’t believe the studios won’t give them this simple thing.

[–] smokingManhole@lemmy.world -3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's the same old story of tech shaking things up. This time it's actors drawing the line, making headlines because, well, they're actors and their stage is way bigger.

Nobody's saying identity theft isn't an issue. But to say all AI is bad is like telling the horse to trash talk cars. Progress is about moving forward, not getting trapped in a loop protecting what we're used to. We adapt or we get left behind, simple as that.

[–] raoulraoul@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

But to say all AI is bad is like telling the horse to trash talk cars.

No. It's like telling chimps to trash talk humans. Your argument is the same as nuclear bomb development...and look what that has led to.

For now, so-called AI is in advanced toy stages, copying pixels and digital audio without independently understanding what it's doing. For now. If you don't think it will eventually replace you—and sooner than you think—you're extremely naïve.

[–] smokingManhole@lemmy.world -3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Oh wow, your argument is so solid. I must defend my place in society because progress is allegedly bad, otherwise I will be replaced by something more meaningful and efficient. You call me naive, but have you read yourself? You probably think that wielding words like 'nuclear bombs' gives your statement weight. To consider technology intrinsically good or bad is barely something a five-year-old might argue. Bravo, you've outdone yourself. You're probably also among those who think nuclear energy is inherently harmful.

I work in AI, what you fear is precisely what I'm waiting for. I can't wait to see jobs like taxi driving automated—indeed, any dehumanizing job that involves mindless repetition because our technology hasn't caught up yet. As for actors, we're already doing almost everything in CGI; do you really think we'll stick to old methods out of respect for the past workers? Not much different from arguing that streaming platforms should have been illegal, so that Blockbuster would have remained open.

Will I be replaced? Oh, how strongly I hope so. I can't wait to see the beauty of progress in motion. It's clear that your fear sabotages your understanding of AI, and your description of it as a mere 'advanced toy' copying pixels and sounds could not be more telling.

[–] RecallMadness 0 points 11 months ago

It’s and admirable goal making ever menial job redundant.

And what happens to you when you’re replaced by AI in 10, 20, 30 years time?

Are you going to be able to reskill in anything meaningful? Are you going to be able to compete in a market that’s over saturated by people made redundant by AI?

Is the government going to support you? Is your redundancy payout gonna support you?

The actors aren’t saying NO to AI, they just want some control and compensation for it.

[–] kingmongoose7877@lemmy.ml 0 points 11 months ago

Your argument is suicidal with all of the forethought of a small child playing with firearms. So you do think atomic warfare is a good thing. Progress must go forward and all.

You say you work in AI? How so?

In any case, once all "dehumanizing jobs" are eliminated (how is driving a taxi "dehumanizing"?) and even you, as you said, are "happily" replaced, what will you do? What will be your purpose in life? Graze? Taking this idea further, why would an intelligent, homeostatic system such as future AI even support you?

AI today — such as ChatGPT, StableDiffusion, etc. — is still a toy, again "merely" choosing the mostly correct combinations from a very large list. You should know that since you work in AI. We're still at the automaton stage. It still can't do consistent video. Hell, it still can't do hands reliably. But again, advances are rapidly being made. Baby steps towards our evolution into the Eloi.