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I don't mean to be pessimistic, bit since most subreddits are only going dark for a couple days, the site will basically be back to normal soon. I wonder how many users here are only here because of temporary outrage and not because they actually prefer Lemmy. I'm curious about people's outlook on this situation.

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[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The vast majority, but more important than the number of people who go back are what kinds of users go back, and most will be lowest common denominator ones who are just there to troll and shitpost. The quality of content and moderating will definitely go down and stay that way.

Not me. I love to live the pirate life and reddit aint so friendly to our kind. Also remember that people can use multiple "social medias". I think only a small group of people will become Lemmy exclusive users, and many Lemmy users would still be using reddit alongside lemmy, maybe not posting as much as they used to, but they will still browse reddit.

[–] MDKAOD@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

I hear you, but I'll tell you what. I haven't had a serious issue. There's been the occasional hiccup, but I've been on reddit for what 15 years or whatever, and lemmy is doing much better than reddit did in early years.

I'm here for the long haul, I enjoy this experience more.

[–] drwho@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

If it's anything like the incoming waves of new Fedi users, 50-65% will go back to their services of choice and never return to the Fediverse.

[–] dogmuffins@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

2 things.

Firstly, most will go back. With the enshittification of twitter in November mastodon experienced an influx of new users. It feels like for several weeks activity doubled, then it died down to about 30% of the increase and stayed there. So while most go back it was still great for Mastodon. Fosstodon users increased from 10k to 60k in a month.

Secondly, it's not a mutually exclusive binary thing. Reddit will always have some great niche communities. There's nothing wrong with following those, but you can also continue to follow some lemmy communities too.

Lemmy doesn't need to become a reddit killer over night. I think for the fediverse in general there will be a few events like this each year, and if the fediverse get's some exposure and increases in size, it just makes it more viable for the next round.

[–] Tot@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

It's almost like reddit took a page from the Elon Handbook of Management or something. I think most people will immediately go back to reddit, or try to use both for a bit. People who used something that wasn't the official app may end up here (but maybe not for the same amount of time per day/week/etc).

Whatever it is that reddit wants to monetize about its users via its app specifically is not something I want any part of.

[–] eeltech@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think all we need is a killer app like RIF or Sync or Apollo

[–] Space_Racer@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm on Jerboa app on Android. It's pretty good. I'm a RIF user.

[–] eeltech@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Will try it

[–] helovesblink182@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I’m optimistic, I signed up for lemmy.ml and it wasn’t available today due to so much traffic I guess… I found lemmy.world and another instance in a few seconds and have been trucking a long. This is coming from me who is not tech savvy inthe slightest. Lemmy is easy for me, and I struggle with learning curves. I deleted my Reddit accounts after a decade of using it, and I’m here for the ride. I use this on iPad, and the install webpage as app functions perfectly. It’s pretty darn beautiful actually

[–] thurmshire@vlemmy.net 1 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I usually scrolled my subreddits, but the things I absolutely sought out on reddit were the wrestling sub and subs devoted to the toy lines I collect. There are discords for those things, but I hope to stumble across something here sooner than later.

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[–] Cowbob45@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

I used RiF exclusively for reddit, I tried to see how the app was but no, just absolute garbage for me.

It's ok though, I've been in between places before I want to give this places a try although I'm still confused as to how they are connected.

[–] Designate6361@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

I'm staying put ! Lemmy is king !!

[–] hugz@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

I'm still on Reddit. I have no emotional connection to any social media platform, so I'm not personally offended by the actions of Reddit's management. I use whatever platform provides the most entertainment, which in the future might be both Lemmy and Reddit

[–] Kaldo@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

As much as I want fediverse to become the norm, the thing is that it doesn't really matter if users switch over - content creators have to switch over. It's the same reason why Mastodon isn't very relevant, very few large names actually moved from Twitter.

[–] ioNabio@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'd think, there is a slight difference of content creators in reddit, vs twitter. In twitter we tend to follow people and the more famous or important they are, the more followers they have. Reddit or Lemmy is focused on linking, noone is necessarily creating content here, but linking to outside sources. In beginning of reddit, I remember most of posts were links, and later on self posts became a thing. Still lots of the posts are pointed to somewhere outside. (hence actually reddit being greedy, to claim they own the content they have in their website, they don't)

Anyway, my bottom line, so a person that is making the content, doesn't need to be here to be seen. Anyone posting a link and any community gathering enough subscribers to start a discussion over a topic is going to be enough to keep us going.

Now some good thing for us here is, even a small community with 5 people talking over a topic, but all of them participating, is enough to keep a community going. I'd say, it is even better than a multi million people community, that our posts/comments, most likely goes unseen.

The only downside is some communities, we need a big presence to have a discussion, and those will be the most difficult to migirate. For example a gaming or tech or a news community of 10 people will still discuss (mostly) the same thing a community of 1000s people would discuss. And the help they provide might be the same. (like how can I beat this game that we all have played)

The problem would be ask advice, or a local community of a city or a country of 10 people will be much limited in topics or the help they can provide, than one of 1000s or more. Hence those might stay in reddit. like AskDoctors, RelationshipAdvice, AskMen, ...

For me also hobby communities, here would be better, since it will make it easier to be seen/ discuss a topic than a larger community of reddit. On the other hand if mods of those hobby communities of reddit decide to migirate here, would cause all their members to move as well. (hobbies like simracing, VR gaming, 3d printing, ....). For these also discord is not a bad place. For example in a discord server of a 3d printing youtube channel, I get much better interaction and help, than the reddit r/3dprinting.

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[–] Kwakigra@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

Unfortunately with the enshittification of almost the entire internet due to a few monoliths controlling almost all traffic and the concept of the hedonic treadmill, the new shitty normal will become acceptable to most people who are not really thinking about it. Not much anyone can do about that.

In my case and for many others, there's a breaking point. It's further along than we probably would like to think it is, but for me it's being jerked over to an inferior, broken, and cluttered interface designed to maximize the amount of paid BS that I have to see while still having to tolerate the consequences of the centrist "all bigots we can sell to are welcome" mentality of Reddit ownership. It's become too much for me to want to continue to participate regularly while alternatives like this exist which haven't yet been ruined yet.

[–] dewritoninja@pawb.social 1 points 1 year ago

Sure a lot of people will go back to reddit. But a sizebale amount will stay and that's enough for lemmy to get a foothold. I won't be returning to reddit

[–] neal@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

This is a tough one for me. If it was just the API changes I probably would have been hesitant but would have returned. As long as old.reddit still worked I probably would have used that.
BUT...... the AMA spez did hurt those chances. He could have avoided dragging the Apollo guy through the mud. So as long as he is there, tough to imagine I will be going back.

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