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a group of 150 or so ARAS members, who had gathered from all over greece for this purpose, came early in the morning to the campus under the direction of their much older leader. they were coordinated, wearing armor under their matching jackets, helmets, and carrying clubs. as one of them began filming, the ARAS guys formed a tight linked-arm cordon around the 30 or so anarchists, kettling them, and began loudly (falsely) accusing the anarchists of having knives, molotovs, etc, to make sure the other gathered leftists around the campus could hear, and shouting "you will not squat."

this is already bizarre behavior, uncharacteristic behavior, and to say the least inappropriate. then, the leader of ARAS shouted "helmets," and the ARAS troops donned their protective helmets and mounted their attack on the unprepared and unarmed anarchist students.

at different times over the years here, anarchists and communists have clashed in the streets or at parties. i am on the anarchist side but i don't like the "sports team" mindset some have about such things. every time it is a disgrace that it happens, but even according to those who've witnessed some of the worst, it has never been as vicious, one-sided and prolonged as happened this morning. sometimes the "clash" is a shoving match-- during a demonstration turned riot, some anarchists are fleeing a charging line of police and the communists link arms to block their way. then the communists stand back and let the police do beatings on the anarchists. this has not happened recently but used to be more common.

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MLs never understand why Greek anarchists have such visceral reaction against tankies. It's a rough lesson learned many times.

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[-] dataprolet@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 11 months ago

It has nothing to do with a "sports team" mindset when authoritarian communist organize to brutally attack anarchists in a militarized fashion. Fuck all Maoists and Tankies and their dogmatism and orthodoxies.

[-] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 11 months ago

Thry see communism as an excuse to have cops, not, as thry say, cops as a necessary cost of communism. Still wrong but I could be comrades with that person.

[-] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 11 months ago

When the people are being beaten with a stick, they are not much happier if it is called "the People's Stick."

[-] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 11 months ago

Yes but thwy may violently defend their right to be beaten w>th it.

[-] alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Oh the Zionazi is still active on this instance? Huh

Antideutsche sind übrigens immer noch keine Linken :p

[-] pendel@feddit.org 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Deutschsprachiges Lemmy leider zu voll mit Antideutschen

[-] alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Deutsche politische Landschaft ist eh cooked bis zum geht nicht mehr...

[-] pendel@feddit.org 2 points 11 months ago
[-] Tiempo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Los pacos de rojo, son los más peligrosos (Red cops are the most dangerous ones)

It's a chant here in Chile....

Never trust an authcommie

[-] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 11 months ago

"Why do anarchists distrust MLs? Left unity!"

Fucking bastards.

[-] dditty@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 11 months ago

The anarchists were just going to be tabling to commemorate the anniversary of the polytekneio protest to the military junta of the 70s and then these authcommies armored up and beat them with clubs until they were concussed, unconscious, bloody, and needing stitches? While shouting "you will not squat?" What the fuck

[-] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 11 months ago

Honestly, sounds more like a fash paramilitary at this point.

[-] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 11 months ago

Nah, the authoritarians are acting like authoritarians? Unheard of. Next you'll tell me they'll do ideological purges, which is just "pledge your loyalty to our state and hope the next guy doesn't kick you out."

[-] socsa@piefed.social 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Nothing new under the sun.

I really wish more anarchists and lib left types in general understood that tankies are their enemy, instead of amplifying a lot of their more idiotic narratives. A lot of people do it without even realizing it, which is why I think anarchist spaces need to be extremely aggressive about keeping out red fash.

[-] _Nico198X_@europe.pub 7 points 11 months ago

agreed. Auth is auth, Right or Left. they are jackboots.

[-] nobody@mastodon.acm.org 6 points 11 months ago

@db0
Ah there it is, I lost the thread and endet up posting into the void (https://mastodon.acm.org/@nobody/115577237718198577)

What's the deal with "maoists"? The name in the wiki is just "anti-capitalist" and I didn't find any details about their... opinions

[-] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 11 months ago

Apparently, they aren't Maoists but "Althusserian" - influenced by Louis Althusser, some French Marxist brainiac who murdered his own wife.

Being a Marxist-Lenninist or Maoist is one thing - but basing your politics on that of these almost universally creepy French academics from the 60s is downright cartoonish IMO.

[-] nobody@mastodon.acm.org 1 points 11 months ago

@masquenox
That is... oddly specific for a group of people to agree on. People labeling themselves as MLs are easy to dismiss as "ok so you just don't read" or "ok so you consumed thousands of tomes of Marxist commentary without even trying to make your own sense of it" because just the first label on the shelf. People calling themselves after a triple derivative marxist?

I went through 2/3 of hir wiki page and honestly... ok wait I'll look up that "prof. Preobrazhenski" video again

[-] Takapapatapaka@tarte.nuage-libre.fr 1 points 11 months ago

It's a philosophy based on Mao writings. So it kinda inherits Marxism-Leninism, and can be classified as authoritarian communism too.

[-] nobody@mastodon.acm.org 0 points 11 months ago

@Takapapatapaka
But is it their self-identification?

[-] Takapapatapaka@tarte.nuage-libre.fr 1 points 11 months ago

Im by no mean a specialist, but from what i know they themselves identify as inheriting ML, and making it better or at least more fitting to China. I don't know if they themselves identify as authoritarian communists, but they at least advocate for authoritarian methods.

[-] Redacted@lemmy.zip 6 points 11 months ago

They should all be arrested

[-] BlastboomStrice@mander.xyz 6 points 11 months ago

Aras even made a statement, but I warn, it's rage-bitey, lol: https://aras.gr/?p=1124

Didnt know aras were maoists

As some extra info, aras were eventually barred from the protests on 17th I think

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