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[–] Vordus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Elim Garak, because how can you not love a ~~patently duplicitous and yet still somehow generally benevolent smooth-talker who chews all the scenery and exudes the queerest energy~~ simple tailor?

[–] val@infosec.pub 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's a basic ass answer but Sisko. Star Trek has tried moral compromise a lot by now, but Sisko remains the only one where it really hit for me. Later Trek, where it's more common, just doesn't have the same level of professionalism or idealism for it to feel meaningful.

[–] xilliah@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago

Wow I love how you put that into words.

[–] xilliah@beehaw.org 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Janeway for me. She expresses anger in the right way and she sways her enemies with forgiveness. And she's a scientist.

[–] krolden@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The Doctor carried Voyager.

fight me

[–] xilliah@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

Photons be free

[–] Bebo@literature.cafe 5 points 1 year ago

Janeway's my favourite too. I love her for her moral rectitude and strength of character. And everything else you said.

[–] krolden@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] JWBananas@startrek.website 6 points 1 year ago

Especially the Garak

[–] xilliah@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Interesting answer. Can you say why?

[–] JWBananas@startrek.website 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's a tie between Mariner and Burnham.

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 5 points 1 year ago

The crystalline entity, because it's pretty.

[–] Prouvaire@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm always glad to see Steve Shives pop up. He does some great video essays.

[–] Akuchimoya@startrek.website 5 points 1 year ago

Dukat. I don't like him a person, but he's a great character. No other Trek character has ever been written as richly or layeredly as he.

At first you assume he's your basic racist bent on hatred and power. Then you realize his obsession with Kira isn't just about destroying an enemy, but his secret love-hate for Bajoran women. We meet Ziyal whom he mostly loves, but is ashamed of. He goes mad, starts a cult, makes himself appear Bajoran and starts a relationship with Kai Winn (ostensibly with other motives, but I think he reveled in it), and ultimately dies for and in his mad faith.

DS9 is lower on my list when I rank the various series, but some of the characters, and defininitely Dukat, top the list of characters.

Janeway is still my Captain.

But they have so many good characters in New world and lower decks... The new feeling and energy is so refreshing.

[–] 73kk13@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

First, I love characters that are regularly puzzled by human beings / being human:
Spock
Data
Odo
The Doctor
Seven of Nine
Saru

Second, I love strong female characters:
Katherine Pulaski
Kira Nerys
Kathryn Janeway!!!
SNW Uhura
SNW Chapel

Third, I love queer characters:
Guinan
Garak
Jadzia Dax
Adira and Gray

I might have forgotten an awfull lot of equally amiable characters, which doesn't mean that I don't love them.

[–] Lophostemon@aussie.zone 0 points 1 year ago

Chewingbacca. His laser sword was the best and he had nice eyes.