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Republicans in Ohio want to undermine the will of voters who approved a measure enshrining reproductive freedom into the state’s constitution

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[–] jerome@lemmy.world 226 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Republicans went against their own rules and held a special election in August to stop abortion; they lost. Republicans then lost in November and abortion rights were enshrined in Ohio's constitution. Now Republicans are saying no to democracy and laws.

Our problem here is all the Republicans. They're anti-American. Ship them off to a place that fits them better.

[–] Veraxus@kbin.social 139 points 1 year ago (3 children)

"If conservatives become convinced that they cannot win democratically, they will not abandon conservatism. They will reject democracy." - David Frum

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[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago (7 children)

deserted island in... hmm. lets go with the south china sea.

[–] Captain_Patchy@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Fuck that, just send 'em to russia.

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[–] Ghyste@sh.itjust.works 148 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Get your god out of my government. Shitbags.

[–] EmpathicVagrant@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

And off the money And out of the pledge And out of the schools

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[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 134 points 1 year ago (3 children)

If anyone's curious exactly which rights are bestowed by God, I've compiled an exhaustive list:

[–] SexualPolytope@lemmy.sdf.org 54 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Where's the list?

Edit: Oh lol. I should go to sleep.

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[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 128 points 1 year ago (5 children)

“No amendment can overturn the God-given rights with which we were born,”

But then, that implies that you don't have rights until you're born...

[–] mightyfoolish@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

Guess it's time to take the guns away. Pack them up, second amendment doesn't take my God given right to protect children.

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[–] StanSmith@lemmy.world 105 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's my Constitution-given right to not give a fuck what anybody's god says I should do.

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[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 80 points 1 year ago

I have just the gadsden flag for this

[–] SexualPolytope@lemmy.sdf.org 65 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It should be socially acceptable to punch anyone in the face whenever they say stupid shit like this.

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[–] Shanedino@lemmy.world 62 points 1 year ago (4 children)

They definetly have the right to not have abortions themselves. But that's probably where the line should be drawn.

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[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 59 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

From the party that brought us great hits such as: Don’t Tread on Me, and Small Government! comes their new hit singles: Tread on You and Threateningly Massive Government!

[–] Coach@lemmy.world 58 points 1 year ago (3 children)

If God wants it so bad, why doesn't he handle it his goddamn self?

[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I've learned a lot about God over the years and I think I can handle this one.

God.... is busy with other things. Like making quarterbacks good at football.

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[–] ThePyroPython@lemmy.world 51 points 1 year ago (4 children)

A God given right to enforce laws over the public at their own whims?

So... Like a Monarchy and court of the throne?

How deliciously un-american of the Ohio Republicans.

If they'd like to join into a monarchical society, why not rejoin the Ol' British Empire as a Colony?

Shall we get the band back together on a mission from god?

All you have to do is kneel before the king.

So... Go on then... Kneel.

(/S if you couldn't tell, fuck the Monarchy)

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[–] the_q@lemmy.world 47 points 1 year ago

Get God down here and let him tell us what rights he's given. I'll wait.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Your god didn’t give you the right to make laws, the people who overwhelmingly voted to legalize abortion did

[–] garibaldi_biscuit@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As a non- American, I straight up don't understand how political representatives are not required to action the collective will of the people who elected them. It should be against the law, or subject to legal penalty in some way. .

[–] Captain_Patchy@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It should be against the law, or subject to legal penalty in some way. .

As an American, You are 100% right. Unfortunately these endless fuckholes think otherwise.

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[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 40 points 1 year ago (2 children)

A magic man in the sky told me I could take away your rights.

[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

Pretty sure this is the subtitle of the Bible.

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[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

What they say their "god" says does not matter in a secular government. They can go fuck themselves. Whenever anyone talks about their god, in my head, I give it about as much relevance as if they were talking about what Harry Potter demands. Or

Also, I'd like it if more people were to ask these radical right wing religious extremists which god they are talking about. All too often, we give this provincialism - that talking about "God" must mean we have to assume they are talking about Jehovah/Yahweh/Allah - a pass. Make them spell it out.

[–] Zippit@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Hey, don't get the Muslims involved. Their god sanctions abortions (under specific circumstances, though over the years these have mostly evolved to: mother in danger, rape, child will be severely handicapped or the old, we don't have the effing money for one more mouth to feed and may God forgive us and we won't talk to anybody about it).

That's why it baffled me to see Canadian Muslims support their Christian counterparts to ban abortions.

At this point, I have to say that they've never even read their books.

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[–] FoundTheVegan@kbin.social 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's my god given right to do whatever the fuck I want and force you to do the same!

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 year ago

It's my god given right to do whatever the fuck I want and force you to do ~~the same~~ what I say!

Ftfy. They do not follow the same rules they try to impose.

[–] misterundercoat@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago

Keep taking Ls at the polls, Christofascists.

[–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Guys, they wanna take our freedoms.

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[–] Ibaudia@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago (2 children)

God hates democracy apparently?

[–] Thranduil@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

Makes sense he is a dictator

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[–] Sgt_choke_n_stroke@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago

You're not giving me a good reason now to raise my children to believe in your god.

[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@lemmy.cafe 28 points 1 year ago

They need to be removed from power by any means available.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The last kind of government that claims to have a "God-given right" was a monarchy. Am I out of the loop and have missed the coronation of the King of Ohio?

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 30 points 1 year ago

Some conservatives actually like the idea of a monarchy. It's the ultimate manifestation of 'rich people are rich because they're inherently better', which is all conservatism really is about.

[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago

You know what the smart political thing to do here is? Shut up and go along with it. It was an off year and voters chose it in a landslide. Keep quiet, and they'll probably consider the issue settled by 2024.

Instead, they're going to make this an issue persisting into 2024 that drives massive turnout against them. They feel power slipping, so they tighten their hold, but that only makes it slip faster.

[–] Username02@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago

God gave you free will but the only choice you are allowed to make is to obey. Same logic here. That's republican's understanding of democracy.

[–] fne8w2ah@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago (4 children)

So does their "pro-life" stance hold any water once gun control is mentioned?

[–] Adalast@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We need to start referring to it as it is. Pro-birth or Anti-woman. Continuing to use their name for it is giving them validation for an invalid stance.

[–] ComradePorkRoll@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 year ago

Personally, I go with "forced-birth."

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 24 points 1 year ago (3 children)

That's funny because I believe that it's my god given right to have one. Checkmate religious extremists! Need me to quote a Bible verse on it? Gimme a bit, I'm sure I can misinterpret one somewhere just like you guys do all the time.

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[–] BluJay320@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 1 year ago

It’s my unicorn given right to punch republicans in the face

[–] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

No amendment can overturn the God-given rights with which we were born,” state Rep. Beth Lear (R-Galena) added in the Republican’s statement.

Glad to know we agree that God, if they exist, gave us the ability to perform abortions and you won't do anything to restrict them.

[–] SuddenlyBlowGreen@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

Fucking christians...

[–] Gazumi@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Have they provided evidence of that right and would they be prepared to debate that right within decent and structured debate?

[–] Zombiepirate@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago (4 children)
  • God said it*
  • I believe it
  • That settles it

*Restrictions may apply, see preacher for excuses

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[–] EmergMemeHologram@startrek.website 17 points 1 year ago (3 children)

If it’s their god’s will to block it, why isn’t it already blocked?

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