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Ukraine Spy Agency Predicts Kremlin Will Soon Conduct Mass Casualty Op Killing Civilians (www.kyivpost.com)

submitted 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) by supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz to c/ukraine@sopuli.xyz

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We are now beginning to enter the stage of the war where Russia is unable to sustain a general offensive all the way up and down the frontline and must resort to terrorism to project fear and the illusion of unstoppable, corrupted power.

Expect more and more of this crap as Russia is less and less able to credibly fight a ground war.

Remember, acts of terrorism definitionally rely on propaganda creating mass panic for their power as if the perpetrators of the terrorism possessed true power they would have resorted to actual coordinated military action such as fighting on the frontline or taking territory.

In otherwords if Russia chooses to attempt something like this, it is by definition a sign of extreme weakness on their part as was the lazy attempt to claim Ukraine tried to assassinate Putin.

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[-] rockerface@lemmy.cafe 48 points 7 months ago

They've been targeting civilians with missiles and drones since the full scale invasion began. Terrorism to them is just a day that ends in "y".

[-] Lemminary@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

"Whoops, my finger slipped. There goes another residential building. So sorry." - Russia every time

[-] OwlPaste@lemmy.world 34 points 7 months ago

Cough cough September 1999 cough cough

They never done that before... /s

[-] Kissaki@feddit.org 18 points 7 months ago

Adding context: I was not very familiar with it, but the article mentions it in the last three paragraphs, and links to a more elaborate, interesting article.

[-] zd9@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago

Yep this guy knows exactly what he's doing and has been doing it for over 30 years.

[-] ChristchurchAsshole@lemmy.ml 3 points 7 months ago

Russia's 9/11, that's what I like to call it. Bombs in the buildings.

[-] Rhoeri@piefed.world 23 points 7 months ago

I mean, everyone kinda knows they are going to do that shit. Russia is essentially the warcrime capital of earth.

[-] titanicx@lemmy.zip 15 points 7 months ago

The US is working on that title

[-] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 4 points 7 months ago

I thought Israel held that title, but it’s okay because they also hold the title of biggest victim.

[-] Tuuktuuk@sopuli.xyz 2 points 7 months ago

They are much smaller than the Russia. Even if they do the same thing, the scale is unavoidably different.

[-] Bazell@lemmy.zip 3 points 7 months ago

LOL, I am envious of you: you have got some playtime with a shit-spammer and I haven't. 😁

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[-] Rion@lemmy.ca 18 points 7 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

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[-] amorangi 13 points 7 months ago

The only way this war ends is with Putin's death.

[-] MBech@feddit.dk 11 points 7 months ago

I'm not sure it would end it. The next person to take command would have everything to gain by winning what Putin couldn't. He'd also have everything to lose, but in Russia, you don't make smart choices, you make dumb choices and blame someone else when you fuck it up.

[-] VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago

I'd argue the smart thing when succeeding Putin would be to end the war, tell the world it's a new Russia, and start getting Russian assets unfrozen.

[-] Tuuktuuk@kbin.melroy.org 2 points 7 months ago

That being the smart thing from our perspective means preciously little for the Russia, though.

The will to live in a powerful country goes over everything else in the Russia. But, I do agree that a form of that could work indeed.

[-] VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

To be clear, they don't need to be sincere; it's in the best interest of anyone following Putin to unfuck their economy, get on the good side of the oligarchs, and modernize their military. The quickest and easiest way to do that is to get out of Ukraine, blame everything on Putin, and at least put on a veneer of civility until things are going smoothly for them. Even if they want to continue expanding the Russian empire, they really need to get out of the current quagmire first.

[-] Tuuktuuk@kbin.melroy.org 2 points 7 months ago

I agree.

What I meant (but said very very unclearly) was that there's a high chance Russians will.simply fail to recognize this. I speak quite a lot with Russians living here in Finland and they are some seriously brainwashed bunch!
Their lack of situational awareness regarding this war is somehow... Even fascinating?

[-] Tuuktuuk@kbin.melroy.org 3 points 7 months ago

I think the next guy has a high likelihood to recognize that the war cannot be won. Putin probably knows the same by now, but he has no other options than to continue (unless he's okay with dying, but he isn't).

A successor has the option to declare something akin to a coup (even if it really isn't one) and claim that "it was Putin, not the new Russia I am leading!", getting the soldiers out of Ukraine and starting the negotiations. (Or rather: starting negotiations for withdrawing Russian troops from Ukraine and drafting a real peace deal.)