Ok y'all need to stop with the rage bait comments or I'm locking the thread. Discuss the mod actions only please
I think your comment is pearl clutching and not homophobic (both you and the mod), but I also don’t think it warranted removal.
fwiw I wasn't saying the mod was homophobic based on that comment.
I just thought that it was unnecessarily sexually degrading and misogynistic, thus not a good fit in a 'queer friendly' space
I don’t see how it’s misogynistic. Definitely sexually crude, but there’s nothing gendered about the insult, as compared to words like cunt or dickhead. Both men and women can use cumrags (or be used as one).
Wondering if this was a spin on the word comrade being close to cumrag as well.
my reading is that misogyny isn’t just about whether the target is female, and obviously on a surface read anyone can be a cumrag, or use one.
the use as an insult still relies on demeaning traits that our culture associates with women or femininity. gay men can still have internalized misogyny
Even though "cumrag" can apply across all genders, the primary meaning has been "a thing used to wipe up semen," and "a person treated like a used-up sexual object."
the people getting framed as:
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passive
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used
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disposable
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interchangeable
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something sex "happens" to
are women, femmes, and bottoms coded as feminine.
I can feel empowered by describing myself as a slut, cumrag, whatever, and use the term affectionately for others. however using those as insults on anyone I disagree with is still reproducing misogyny
I guess I've led a sheltered life, because the first definition is the only one I thought of initially. But since you've pointed it out I get the issue with it now. I was equating it in my head with something more like "asswipe" initially. But even without the misogyny aspect, the ban was still PTB.
In a similar vein, describing one person submitting or otherwise going along with what another wills as "dickriding" or other similar sexual act is also baked in misogyny and homophobia. The cultural shame levied against gay men, women in general, etc. is why it's supposed to hurt to be called a dickrider for someone, rather than just a sycophant. Both are pejoratives, one relies on that cultural shame.
This is some go go gadget arms level of reaching.
This is some ostrich-head-in-the-sand lack of awareness.
ostrich-head-in-the-sand
Yeah, in the sense that it's a made up myth.
Misogyny is a made up myth, you’re right! Here let me highlight the important part for you, dummy.
misogyny isn’t just about whether the target is female
This is true. The effects are more than just on women.
I feel true pity for you. Please go away. Downvote first though!
Thanks for sharing your perspective. I don’t necessarily agree but I appreciate it nonetheless
I feel like the mod was looking for an excuse here. I am not sure this is misogynistic per se, but definitely using a slur for "bottoms" (of any gender) to malign your ideological enemies is problematic and probably reinforcing patriarchy and toxic masculinity.
On the other hand people in here going all "of course I'm not surprised they're sexist, since they're anti-ML" is some weak kick-them-during-the-pile-on shit given how there's hordes of patriarchy-lovingly homophobic Marxists (in fact I'd argue that's most of them, comparatively)
hordes of patriarchy-lovingly homophobic Marxists
sadly I am familiar with the trope, mostly from other spaces than here though. plenty of 'old guard' Marxist parties irl do suck in that exact way for example.
that is why I don't have much tolerance for 'patriots' of any affiliation and call shit out when I see it.
@Deceptichum@quokk.au is usually on the level, so I'm curious why they triggered a 74 year ban
Oh I’m sure someone who immediately resorts to “you disgusting piece of shit” is usually on the level.
Like, what the fuck? That’s an insane overreaction to someone pointing out that “cumrag” isn’t super friendly.
“Homophobia,” ok. Ban me from the silly meme community too, then.
I see many posts and comments by them, that aren't just rage, so I'm inclined to not make a rash judgement.
And yet I blocked them months ago because of all of the insane rage spam. They might post other things but I can’t with the rage.
I clicked on the account and was like “oh hey that checks out.” So I looked from another account.
Literally the post we’re talking about has “cumrags” in the title.
Sorry, no thanks. When someone tells you who they are, believe them the first time.
I've never once had an interaction with them that wasn't them immediately attacking me or other users. I've never actually seen them act chill before.
I think that says more about you than them.
I mean, the guy is very vocal about virulently hating “tankies” and has horseshoe theory brain worms, which means that you’re a (“red”) fascist, which gives him license to boot you for just existing.
PTB.
Entirely unsurprising for that mod in particular, they've equated communists to Nazis and said "tankie fucks deserve to get their heads bashed in." Extremely aggressive 100% of the time whenever they encounter a Marxist, or even like in the OP an anarchist that happens to disagree with them.
I would argue it’s because you’re on lemmy.ml, and people who are obsessed with stuff like this think it really means something instead of being one of the more popular instances.
I'm a Marxist-Leninist, I say that openly. The target of the OP calls us "authies" and "tankies," and seems to have an on-site hostility mindset when it comes to Marxists.
Stop flatting him.
Ye Power Trippin' Bastards
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