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[-] Prove_your_argument@piefed.social 68 points 7 months ago

I’m never doing this. I’ll pay someone else to verify my account before I upload my dox with these assholes.

I’m fine switching to an alternative, but I have seen no gaming companies linking anything else for their official “forums”

[-] Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 7 months ago

Minecraft.wiki links to Zulip....

[-] artwork@lemmy.world 52 points 7 months ago

Considering the recent "third-party" data breach cases...

[-] incompetent@programming.dev 5 points 7 months ago

More info for those unfamiliar:

Of the accounts impacted globally, we have identified approximately 70,000 users that may have had government-ID photos exposed, which our vendor used to review age-related appeals.

[-] ZombieCyborgFromOuterSpace@piefed.ca 50 points 7 months ago

Goodbye Discord.

Hello Matrix!

[-] Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 7 months ago

Matrix isn't that good from an usability standpoint as it looks a lot like IRC

[-] Untold1707@lemmy.zip 7 points 7 months ago

Usability is good in my opinion. They’ve spent a lot of time on the UI over the past couple years. The mobile Element X apps are excellent now IMO. But the two things that prevent matrix/Element from being a good discord replacement are:

  1. No Mumble-like voice chat. They have Zoom-like conference calling now, but no voice channels.
  2. Search is either non-existent (mobile clients) or is awful. It’s somehow worse than Discord’s search! I know it’s because the search needs to work on-device because of E2EE, but unfortunately it’s still a minus point vs Discord.
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[-] mechanicalant@piefed.zip 45 points 7 months ago

I don't trust discord with what little I formation I've gave them so far. Definitely not giving them my ID or a scan of my face.

[-] ttyybb@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago

But they pinky promise the face scan is not facial recognition and that it's immediately deleted and never leaves your device.

[-] RotatingParts@lemmy.ml 44 points 7 months ago

I hope for once people would get together and drop Discord so that Discord would have to reverse this policy. So often, we the customers really have the power if we get together and act together. All these social networks are nothing without the contributions of the customers.

[-] harsh3466@lemmy.ml 10 points 7 months ago

without the contributions of the ~~customers~~

Without the contributions of the product.

As the adage goes, if you're not paying for it (and often even when you are), you're not the customer.

[-] Whostosay@sh.itjust.works 7 points 7 months ago

We should append this, ..." or it is open source"

[-] newcool1230@lemmy.ml 35 points 7 months ago

https://discord.com/press-releases/update-on-security-incident-involving-third-party-customer-service

Of the accounts impacted globally, we have identified approximately 70,000 users that may have had government-ID photos exposed

[-] Mwa@thelemmy.club 25 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Finally my chance to quit?
Idk

[-] SpaceCrystal@lemmy.ml 20 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Yeah, you go ahead & do that, & watch how many people will jump ship to other alternatives while you lose a lot of money & subscriptions, especially when you’ve been hacked before.

People have found other alternatives to TikTok, & they’ll do the same with Discord.

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[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 19 points 7 months ago

Users who aren’t verified as adults will not be able to access age-restricted servers and channels, won’t be able to speak in Discord’s livestream-like “stage” channels, and will see content filters for any content Discord detects as graphic or sensitive.

Shrug

I'm not using discord for porn, so I'm not going to lose sleep. Will simply live with a "teen" account until my groups migrate to a better service.

But you'll get my biometrics from my cold dead hands.

They will also get warning prompts for friend requests from potentially unfamiliar users, and DMs from unfamiliar users will be automatically filtered into a separate inbox.

GOOD

Crazy they didn't implement this years ago. Discord is bloated with fake user spam.

[-] this@sh.itjust.works 9 points 7 months ago

So I get a free spam filter for not verifying? Guess I'm never verifying then, lol.

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[-] ttyybb@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

That last part should just be a feature of any account.

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[-] tehWrapper@lemmy.world 18 points 7 months ago

However, some users may not have to go through either form of age verification. Discord is also rolling out an age inference model that analyzes metadata like the types of games a user plays, their activity on Discord, and behavioral signals like signs of working hours or the amount of time they spend on Discord.>

[-] VoxAliorum@lemmy.ml 16 points 7 months ago

Revolt! your time has come (though it has been renamed to Stoat; a name I very much dislike.

[-] LadyMeow@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 7 months ago

You made the poor little guy sad. :(

[-] VoxAliorum@lemmy.ml 3 points 7 months ago
[-] LadyMeow@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 7 months ago

The stoat forgives, and acknowledges that the game is not great, lol

[-] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 7 months ago

Limited Linux support (no repo or flatpak pkgs, not even aur) and tbh im not so sure how long they will continue to exist

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[-] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml 11 points 7 months ago

Does there exist an alternative that has both a desktop (WIN/Linux) client and a phone (android/iphone) client?

[-] Tatar_Nobility@lemmy.ml 7 points 7 months ago
[-] Hirom@beehaw.org 3 points 7 months ago

XMPP, Conversations is a Nice Android client.

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[-] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 10 points 7 months ago

Uhhhh no thanks. Bye.

[-] Redtrax@lemmy.ml 10 points 7 months ago

Deleted 👍🏻

[-] mcv@lemmy.zip 9 points 7 months ago

I'm not against age restrictions, but letting every site brew their own method is a really bad idea. I'm not going to upload my legal ID to every random site; that's a recipe for identity theft, and it's a really bad idea to teach people that that's normal or acceptable.

And age guessing through facial recognition is incredibly unreliable. My 16 year old son has already been accepted as 18+ somewhere. I had a full moustache at 14. Others are blessed with a babyface well into their 30s.

The only right way to do this, is if governments provide their citizens with an eID that any site can ask "is this person 18+?" and get an accurate answer without any other identifiable info. And if you don't want the government to know what sites you visit, have sites route the request through a proxy.

But instead everybody's got to cobble together their own improvised system that we just have to trust blindly is not going to sell our data.

[-] freedickpics@lemmy.ml 4 points 7 months ago

and it’s a really bad idea to teach people that that’s normal or acceptable.

This is a point so few people mention. Normalising having to give up personal information online is such a dangerous thing to do and companies/governments that enforce this shit are setting people up to be scammed

[-] M1k3y@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 7 months ago

And if you don't want the government to know what sites you visit, have sites route the request through a proxy.

Actually, no on the fly communication with the issuer is required for selective disclose. You just need a signed document with individually salted hashes of different properties and you can create a zero knowledge proof non-interactively. Zero knowledge meaning that truely nothing but the disclosed property (age > 18, County == DE, or whatever) is communicated to anyone.

Theres a lot of other cool stuff that can be done with zero knowledge digital identity wallets. You could for example hash your pubkey together with the service providers pk and disclose that as a per service ID, but not reveal your pk. This allows linkability within one service (as a login method for example) while preventing cross service linkability.

[-] Ferk@lemmy.ml 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

That prevents the site from knowing your identity, but I'm not convinced it prevents the government from knowing you visit the site. The government could keep track of which document corresponds to which individual whenever they issue / sign it.

So if the government mandated that each signed proof of "age>18" was stored by the service and mapped to each account (to validate their proof), then the government could request the service to provide them copy of the proof and then cross-check from their end which particular individual is linked to it.

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[-] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 8 points 7 months ago
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[-] Geki@lemmy.ml 7 points 7 months ago

We need something like what Lemmy is to Reddir, except for discord. A decentralized application with multiple instances that users can join.

I have a discord server of about ~1K members, and would love to spin up a docker container to host my own instance that users can join. Chat, voice/ video calls, video streaming, etc. I'd love to support a FOSS project like this. Maybe even have E2E while we're at it!

[-] pucker4676@lemmy.ml 9 points 7 months ago

Closest I can think of is Matrix. Element isn't bad.

[-] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Matrix is the way, and element is the best so far, but it needs more work.

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[-] the_abecedarian@piefed.social 5 points 7 months ago

matrix and zulip are interesting alternatives

[-] desmosthenes@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

RIP Discord

[-] hobata@lemmy.ml 3 points 7 months ago

Best thing you can do with discord? Uninstall it.

[-] VoxAliorum@lemmy.ml 3 points 7 months ago

On-device processing: Video selfies for facial age estimation never leave a user’s device.

Quick deletion: Identity documents submitted to our vendor partners are deleted quickly— in most cases, immediately after age confirmation.

Still a no for me for now, but a bit misleading: https://discord.com/press-releases/discord-launches-teen-by-default-settings-globally

[-] AnaGram@lemmy.ml 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Have not used this so I can't speak to their viability, but there's also @root

[-] Postmortal_Pop@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

New to the whole privacy space, what should I start moving my social group to that's like discord but not doing this?

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