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[-] pennomi@lemmy.world 114 points 6 months ago

It’s both. Don’t pretend Russia is harmless.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 39 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Only catch is, one of these people is the target of CIA hit squads and the other gets a standing ovation in the US Capital.

Like, you can't talk to me about influence peddling and not talk about J-Street. Let me know when Washington DC has an R-Street and we can talk about their relative influence.

[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 24 points 6 months ago

one of these people is the target of CIA hit squads

Allegedly. Its not clear to me Trump sees either of these people as opponents. Everything Israel does coordinates with Russias goals, and vice versus. They might not be coordinating but the outcomes might as well be.

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[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 36 points 6 months ago

Bruh we're literally sending billions annually to Israel so they can then turn it around and bribe our politicians to get more.

[-] wheezy@lemmy.ml 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Russia isn't "harmless" if we're having a conversation about capitalist incentives and imperialist interest and how they result in global conflicts were the working class suffer the consequences.

But if you hear mainstream media start to cry "but Russia" you should see that as a HUGE red flag.

There is no comparing "Russian Influence" to the extension of US imperialism that is the Israeli colonial project. That's ridiculous.

I think the only silly thing we do is pretend that Israel is "controlling America". No, Israel does the the absolute worst things in the interest of American Imperialism; that even the American oligarchs want to distance themselves from.

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[-] BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone 25 points 6 months ago
[-] K1nsey6@lemmy.world 17 points 6 months ago

It can be both, but Israel is the greater threat. Because nearly all politicians are either openly taking up AIPAC money or they're doing the work for AIPAC for free. And Democrats by and large, take more contributions from AIPAC, From the last election cycle. Seven out of the top 10 were contributions to Democrats

Israel wants the shield of the USA and Russia wants the USA out of NATO essentially. We're in some seriously dangerous times.

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[-] njm1314@lemmy.world 23 points 6 months ago

They both seem like real problems though don't they? Also the links between Russia and Israel are pretty strong...

[-] Formfiller@lemmy.world 20 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Zionism is a fundamentalist ideology that Israel is following. Zionism is not a religion it is an evil political fundamentalist ideology that claims supremacy of a particular race. Zionism justifies extermination, oppression, exploitation and apartheid of those people who do not ethnically align with their supremisist ideology to fulfill their imperial ambitions. As long as the United States keeps giving them a blank check at the expense of the American people this will only get worse as this cancer spreads. Nazism is similar to Zionism as it is a supremisist ideology that justifies imperialist expansion of the chosen “race” and the systematic extermination and dehumanization of a “race”of people deemed less than.

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[-] vpol@feddit.uk 19 points 6 months ago

It’s absolutely both.

[-] Doomsider@lemmy.world 14 points 6 months ago

Oh you mean the world that is controlled by the US would dare to lobby the US government. Tell me it ain't so. Here is a fucking idea, if you don't like it when someone puts their hand in your cookie jar don't go around putting your hand in everyone else's cookie jar.

Aka how dare they interfere with elections, only we are allowed to do that!

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[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago

I'm sure Russia is interfering, too. Even while they are short of money, they know that every cent spent to buy an American politician is worth a dollar in return. And for some cases, they just use some compromat, so they are even cheaper.

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[-] Zier@fedia.io 12 points 6 months ago

Actually, Russia is interfering with the US elections, it's called Donald Trump.

[-] Paranoidfactoid@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago

Except Russia did actually do that.

[-] green_goglin@thelemmy.club 8 points 6 months ago

Two things can’t both be true at the same time.

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[-] EuroNutellaMan@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

Both are and both should be dealt with

[-] Lucky_777@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

Look into any political person you're thinking about voting for. Call them out for taking this money and primary them

[-] Zexks@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

2 things can be true at the same time. I would not expect someone like op to be able to realize this though.

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