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There's a post about it.

That post explicitly says it's not a place for debate or participation from users of other instances.

I'd like to respect that but I think events like this need debate and discussion because it helps to develop and evolve the culture of lemmy and the fediverse in general.

The post says:

This post is "FYI only" for blahaj lemmy members. It is not a debate, and is not intended for non blahaj lemmy users to weigh in and offer opinions.

I recently received reports of a feddit.uk user espousing transphobia. Specifically, this was a feddit.uk user refusing to use the word cis, repeating the "adult human female" dog whistle, and claiming that trans women are not women. I approached a member of the feddit.uk admin team and raised my concerns and sought clarification of their stance on posts like this, where the transphobia is mostly dogwhistles, and "civil disagreement" on the validity of trans folk.

I was told by the feddit.uk admin that their preferred response is this kind of transphobia is to "sort it out through discussion and voting". However, the comments in question are currently more upvoted than downvoted, and little "sorting out" has occurred. The posts remain in place.

At this point, the admin stopped responding to my messages despite being active elsewhere on lemmy. When it became clear they were ignoring my messages and had no intention of removing the posts in question, I made the decision to defederate the instance.

I know some folk agree with the feddit.uk admins approach of pushback through discussion and voting, but this instance is not designed to be that kind of space. Blahaj lemmy is meant to be a place where we can avoid the rampant transphobia universally visible on nearly every other social media platform, and where we can exist without needing to debate our right to do so.

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[-] pixeltree@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago

That's why I chose blahaj zone as my instance. It's nice not having to justify my existence

[-] hal_5700X@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

So some feddit.uk user posting some stuff an Blahaj admin didn't like. So the Blahaj admin want to a feddit.uk admin about it. The feddit.uk admin said, "Let the users sort it out.". People liked what as being said. This made the Blahaj admin so mad. They defederated from feddit.uk because over it.

Jesus, Blahaj always been full of crazy people. But this takes the cake. The feddit.uk admin did nothing wrong.

EDIT If you see a post/comment you don't like. You don't ban or defederate. You write an counter to them to get people to be on your side of it.

[-] Feyd@programming.dev 0 points 1 year ago

Are you seriously so dense that you can't see how a trans person could want a forum where they don't have to see people actively hating them?

[-] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 1 year ago

I think they can and they're just upset about it because they want to come into trans spaces and persecute trans people with questions and thinly-veiled transphobic talking points and trans people just aren't having it.

[-] Flatworm7591@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago

I wouldn't be at all surprised if other instances start considering defederating from feddit.uk over this. If folks want to chat with racists and transphobes then stay on Xitter ffs. Hopefully their admin team do the right thing here, after talking it over.

[-] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 1 year ago

I think @ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone totally should publish a censure on fediseer if she didn't already with details so people can decide if defederating feddit.uk would be best.

[-] Skiluros@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

What does a censure imply? Would it also include the offending comment (a possible copy of which has already been shared).

Surely you can't just call for broad defederation (if that's what censure implies) without actually providing hard evidence?

[-] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 1 year ago

Fediseer censure is a message they post to the Fediseer it includes a custom message and is a warning to other instances to maybe not federate with that instance. Whether instances choose to defederate based on that it entirely up to them.

[-] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 1 year ago

Listen, Blahaj.zone doesn't tolerate transphobia, no matter how polite or benign it seems. Refusing to stick up for trans people or enforce policies on transphobia is transphobic in and of itself. A lot of the BBC style transphobic people who ask "Is it offensive to say a trans woman doesn't have a cervix", and the "moderate conservatives" who make similar statements of non-support or bad faith accusations get very upset when people won't play along or will moderate the hell out of them (banning them from spaces or defederating) but guess what. Trans people don't owe you explanations or debates, they don't need to or want to answer your disgusting questions, they see right through the mask of fake politeness.

[-] Kolanaki@pawb.social 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Defederating an entire instance over the actions of a single user instead of simply banning that user along with creating a post to bring it up but not actually discuss it is just the kind of extreme reaction I expect from Ada.

[-] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

Not a user, the admin.

It looks like a reaction to the user on the surface, but it's the lack of communication and the policies that drove the decision, based on the post in question.

Unless you're saying you don't believe the reason given, which is a different issue, and totally your right

[-] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They want to dictate to the admins of other instances which user they should ban as if they're the sole arbiters of what is or is not 'transphobic'. That's the entire issue.

The Blahj admins have been doing this behind the scenes for a while. Go and get banned from a Blahj instance and you'll a large number of other seemingly random communities will automatically ban you as well (see my post history for a modlog link showing the effect). That's because these little behind the scenes conversations about 'transphobia' happen all the time and many admins or community moderators just give in to the demands because it's exhausting to have a conversation with these people.

They're not attempting to solve an issue with a user. They're trying to throw their weight around and bully admins and moderators into accepting their ban lists.

[-] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 1 year ago

Go and get banned from a Blahj instance and you’ll a large number of other seemingly random communities will automatically ban you as well (see my post history for a modlog link showing the effect).

For the record in all the cases of this happening that I can count in recent history on one hand, the people who received these bans received them for the exposure of what they did, not because they were banned from blahaj. Lemmy is large majority a leftist, trans-supportive platform. So transphobia isn't going to be popular here and will get you booted from communities if and when mods find out about it. Which is what happened to you.

It's honestly surprising you didn't get an instance ban since lemmy.world does ban people for transphobia these days. I guess @MrKaplan@lemmy.world just didn't notice it.

[-] FauxLiving@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

The Blahj instance takes everything you hate about Reddit power mods and elevates them to federation level. Extreme overreaction, self-righteousness, the 'If you disagree with me, you're transphobic' bullshit and the complete inability to have a conversation with people who disagree with them.

Then they go an make a demand of another instance's admins, fail to get the result they're looking for and, lacking the ability to handle conflict resolution or disagreement like an adult, simply defederate the entire instance.

Expecting the entire fediverse to follow their direction on bans for 'transphobia' is beyond absurd given how freely they apply that label.

The admins at Blahj are not 'creating a safe space', they're cultivating an echo chamber of toxic behaviors. Being a member of a minority group does not excuse toxic behaviors.

[-] TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

complete inability to have a conversation with people who disagree with them

I've seen Ada talk to people who were 90% a troll in an effort to educate someone. You can DM her and ask questions if you want.

they're cultivating an echo chamber of toxic behaviors

aka not having to fight to justify your existence. If another instance makes people fight to justify their existence then it doesn't fit blahaj's goals and defederation is the solution.

[-] FauxLiving@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

I’ve seen Ada talk to people who were 90% a troll in an effort to educate someone. You can DM her and ask questions if you want.

No thanks, I've participated in a thread (see my post in this community) on a topic that the Blahj community decided that I wasn't educated in. There was a lot more attacks than good faith efforts to have a conversation.

aka not having to fight to justify your existence.

No, I mean such as having people who think it is acceptable to put words in another person's mouth.

If another instance makes people fight to justify their existence then it doesn’t fit blahaj’s goals and defederation is the solution.

Defederation isn't the solution. Users can block instances if they want. No instance is sending their content to Blahj, Blahj users are requesting that content.

Go and look in The Agora on your own instance and look at the discussion thread about defederation. TheDude weighs in on the topic as well if I recall.

[-] Noel_Skum@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

How are people still struggling with the basic concept that the person who runs Blahaj can do what they want with Blahaj?

All I get from this type of moaning is: “I joined a decentralised platform and now disagree with decentralisation in action.”

If this kind of action is what it takes for Blahajists to protect their necks then this is how it’s gonna be…

[-] Taleya@aussie.zone 0 points 1 year ago

They're not struggling at all, just supremely butthurt that they're not being given a direct platform to abuse people.

[-] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 1 year ago

Hit the nail right on the head here, they're whining because the trans people won't allow them to debate and strawman their existence. I'm happy that Blahaj challenges socially acceptable transphobia and I really wish more people would do it. These types of transphobes shouldn't feel welcome anywhere ~~with trans people~~ at all.

[-] sixty@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

I find it absolutely crazy that they de-federated over 1 user, when a block would suffice.

I don't agree with transphobia (of course), but Blåhaj can't demand that their rules be enforced in other instances.

[-] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 1 year ago

but Blåhaj can’t demand that their rules be enforced in other instances.

They can, or choose not to interoperate with servers that don't have their best interests at heart. That's the whole point of defederation and people honestly need to understand that. I know in the beginning the Fediverse propaganda painted this place as a free speech safe-haven. That is a lie, this place has rules and servers expect you to follow them. They aren't obligated to tolerate bullshit. Blahaj.zone isn't obligated to tolerate or listen to transphobia.

Also one important fact here is that feddit.uk themselves has rules against transphobia. It's not even about following blahaj's rules, it's about them not following their own rules now.

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