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[–] Pagliacci@lemmy.ml 67 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't think he "face planted", he's telling us exactly who he is. The good Senator from Alabama, one of the lucky 100 to make major policy decisions for all of us, is a defender of white supremacists.

But don't worry, racism is dead and gone. SCOTUS told us so.

[–] RestrictedAccount@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

For a few million dollars of speech and some fancy hunting trips, but only if own the jet outright, you can get anything changed.

[–] BrooklynMan@lemmy.ml 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"White Nationalists" is what they call themselves, amongst other, whose things.

[–] hardypart@feddit.de 11 points 1 year ago

"Supremacists" is what others call them.

[–] cultsuperstar@lemmy.ml 24 points 1 year ago

Tuberville is such a dolt. Parlayed his coaching career into politics, and is now holding military promotions hostage because he doesn't like the military's stance on abortion.

[–] skeezix 23 points 1 year ago

🎶Wastin’ away again with fuckin Tuberville

[–] GFGJewbacca@ag.batlord.org 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

TUBERVILLE: My opinion of a White nationalist – if somebody wants to call them that – to me, is an American. It’s an American.

To be fair, he's not wrong about that. Sadly, White Nationalists are not strictly Americans.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't think we need to be fair to Tommy Tuberville.

[–] GFGJewbacca@ag.batlord.org 4 points 1 year ago

I do hear you there. Perhaps I could have phrased it by acknowledging that a broken clock is right twice a day.

[–] Tedesche@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I was waiting for him compare the term White nationalist to libtard. 😂

[–] NetHandle@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I guess it's kind of technically not referring directly to racism. They are technically white people who are also technically nationalists.

Nationalist - "a person who strongly identifies with their own nation and vigorously supports its interests, especially to the exclusion or detriment of the interests of other nations."
-the google first result definition

White Person - "White is a racialized classification of people and a skin color specifier, generally used for people of European ancestry, although the definition can vary depending on context, nationality, and point of view."
-the google first result definition

So you could have people who were nationalistic for other reasons, such as economics, manufacturing, self sustaining infrastructure, military power... who also happen to be a white person.

For the sake of argument, semantically, not wrong.
It should be noted that a nation is not a race.

The fact that there are a significant number of racist white people who call themselves white nationalists just ruins the term for the rest of the white people who are also nationalists without the racism.

I assume Nazis like the term because they support a "white nation" and are not treating white and nationalist as two grammatically distinct terms. Kind of a racist double entendre.

Just another example of Nazi's adopting something and ruining it for everyone else.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

All true, but this could also be down to the fact that Tuberville is a very stupid person.