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Donald Trump has launched a fresh tirade on both the judge and his chief court clerk in his New York civil fraud trial just hours after a gag order banning him from criticising court personnel was paused.

Judge Arthur Engoron had issued the gag order in the case after the former president made a series of false and disparaging remarks about his chief clerk of court Allison Greenfield both to reporters outside the courtroom and on his Truth Social account.

Mr Trump had already violated the gag order twice and incurred $15,000 in fines as a result.

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[-] Red_October@lemmy.world 116 points 2 years ago

Honestly the only surprising thing gleaned here is the notion that the gag order was actually working in the first place.

[-] Telorand@reddthat.com 53 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

It was. The point was to protect the staff, and the less he can talk about them, the safer they were (his base have the attention span of gnats).

[-] brothershamus@kbin.social 91 points 2 years ago

But on Thursday, Associate Justice David Friedman of the state’s intermediate appeals court agreed to temporarily lift the gag order, “considering the constitutional and statutory rights at issue”.

Now, Mr Trump is able to speak freely about court staff while the longer appeals process plays out.

Justice Friedman, you done fucked up. Are you an idiot? Jesus.

[-] brothershamus@kbin.social 61 points 2 years ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Friedman_(judge)

Apparently he's about 73, so maybe the whole stochastic terrorism thing trump does via social media is really foreign to him. Still - perhaps some of the legal aids in his office could, y'know, asplain.

[-] Telorand@reddthat.com 38 points 2 years ago

"Surely, this man has some shred of human decency." —David Friedman's inner monologue

[-] AmberPrince@kbin.social 30 points 2 years ago

Narrator: He did not.

[-] HarkMahlberg@kbin.social 16 points 2 years ago

Comey: " 'Will nobody rid me of this meddlesome priest?' "
Friedman: "But what do priests have to do with this?" 🤔

[-] dhork@lemmy.world 39 points 2 years ago

Maybe not. During the appeals process, the prosecution can point out exactly what happened when the appeal was temporarily lifted. It will help give the appellate judge cover when he reinstates the order.

And let's be clear, Trump wins either way. Either the appeal works, his gag order is permanently lifted, and he can continue to publicly assault the institutions trying to hold him to account. Or the gag order gets upheld, which can feed his persecution complex and the narrative that everyone is out to get him.

(I mean, there are lots of people who are out to get him, but their job is to go after criminals, and he is one....)

[-] BigMcLargeHuge@mstdn.social 20 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

@dhork @brothershamus

I'm sure her family will take great comfort after her death/injury knowing that the burnt orange shitgibbon was effectively, practically, given a pass on things that would put everyone else in the US under a jail.

[-] ghostdoggtv@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

Friedman is obviously on the take

[-] ThePantser@lemmy.world 68 points 2 years ago

Why was it lifted? Good behavior? The judge should reinstate it immediately.

[-] noride@lemm.ee 44 points 2 years ago

It wasn't really lifted, it was stayed by an appellate judge while Trump's appeal plays out.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago

Complicit appellate judge.

[-] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 13 points 2 years ago

Appellate judge.

[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 62 points 2 years ago

His Ridiculous and Unconstitutional Gag Order, not allowing me to defend myself against him and his politically biased and out of control, Trump Hating Clerk

But you defend yourself in the court room, not outside of it

[-] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 years ago

That's how it's done for most people. This man has clearly lived in the court of public opinion his entire life.

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[-] deejaypanini@lemmy.world 55 points 2 years ago

Who could have predicted this? 🤯

[-] DarkGamer@kbin.social 34 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

The reason Trump got so fucked in this trial was because his lawyers neglected to ask for a jury trial like he usually does, now he's actually bound by a judge who understands the law rather than jurors he can emotionally manipulate.

It seems like Trump is trying to build a case in the court of public opinion, but not a legally valid one, that this is just persecution because of personal and political reasons. And he's going to do it by making the judge hate him, in hopes that he can overturn his fuck up. I just don't think that," the judge treated me unfairly because I insulted his staff" is a very compelling argument.

Frankly, if he was anyone else he would probably be thrown in prison for contempt of court by now.

[-] mycatiskai@lemmy.one 26 points 2 years ago

Is it time for the $100,000 fine followed by the $1 million fine

[-] kmartburrito@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

They should inflate the fine to the same percentage that the trump family inflated the value of his assets.

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[-] RickyRigatoni@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago

That's like fining me 20 cents.

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[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago

So if the appeals court needs one reason to reinstate the gag order with a vengeance, this should be it.

[-] NegativeLookBehind@kbin.social 14 points 2 years ago

The American justice system, neutered by a greasy Cheeto-dusted dipshit.

[-] agitatedpotato@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Its the money. Money neuters justice and Trump is proving you can do literally everything else wrong, but with enough money, justice will pause for you. If he was smart enough to shut up when it's beneficial, he'd probably have a measurable chance to evade justice completely.

[-] tiita@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

Why is this guy not behind bars already and he's allowed to run for president is beyond me

[-] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 years ago

You're guilty all the same

Too sick to be ashamed

You want to point your finger

But there's no one else to blame

You're guilty all the same

[-] jafo@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

Trump on the stand, being fined for talking about the clerk: I wasn't talking about the clerk, I was talking about Michael Cohen. ... Gag order gets lifted. So anyway, what I was saying about the clerk...

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