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submitted 6 months ago by cm0002@infosec.pub to c/privacy@programming.dev

“Telegram is not a private messenger. There’s nothing private about it. It’s the opposite. It’s a cloud messenger where every message you’ve ever sent or received is in plain text in a database that Telegram the organization controls and has access to it”

“It’s like a Russian oligarch starting an unencrypted version of WhatsApp, a pixel for pixel clone of WhatsApp. That should be kind of a difficult brand to operate. Somehow, they’ve done a really amazing job of convincing the whole world that this is an encrypted messaging app and that the founder is some kind of Russian dissident, even though he goes there once a month, the whole team lives in Russia, and their families are there.”

" What happened in France is they just chose not to respond to the subpoena. So that’s in violation of the law. And, he gets arrested in France, right? And everyone’s like, oh, France. But I think the key point is they have the data, like they can respond to the subpoenas where as Signal, for instance, doesn’t have access to the data and couldn’t respond to that same request.  To me it’s very obvious that Russia would’ve had a much less polite version of that conversation with Pavel Durov and the telegram team before this moment"

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[-] 0x0@lemmy.zip 18 points 6 months ago

whatsapp < telegram < signal < session/simpleX < briar < squirrels on meth riding carrier pidgeons

[-] EfreetSK@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago

So the squirrels on meth, do they have an f-droid client? Can't find it

[-] pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 6 points 6 months ago

The squirrel working on reproducible builds for F-Droid has been a bit unreliable, so it's not on F-Droid, yet.

[-] Willoughby@piefed.world 1 points 4 months ago

one dude holding an XMPP sign in the back

"we see you, buddy!"

this post was submitted on 27 Feb 2026
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