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    [–] BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works 176 points 1 year ago (11 children)

    Not being allowed to remove an app has lead about two people to switch from windows in the last 10000years.

    [–] Agent641@lemmy.world 97 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    When will the EU force Vim to let users out?

    [–] BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Hit Esc then type "q!" <- how hard was that? Don't listen to the vimxit liars

    [–] programmer_belch@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Don't forget the ':' before the q!, when you type ':' you enter command mode, the q command quits the file and putting an exclamation mark after the q doesn't save the file and forces the file to be closed

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    [–] HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Open a new terminal and type sudo killall vim

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    [–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    I still dual boot for a few games and one piece of hardware that just don’t work on GNU/Linux, but I’m almost certainly never going back.

    There was an ad for Tik Tok in my Start Menu after the last update. Fuck everything about that sentence.

    [–] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.de 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Uhh what hardware isn't working? Is it something really niche? For some reason I like hearing about stuff like that.

    [–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

    It’s an old audio card. The output and input work, but it retains the volume level and mix settings as last adjusted in Windows. I’ll replace it eventually with a DAC and amp, which is what we put together for my wife’s build last year.

    It’s the nuAudio card (non-pro version) from EVGA. There are a few work around a, one of which is backflashing old firmware to get some level of control in Linux, but I don’t like the tradeoff and a couple of my Elite: Dangerous tools don’t work well on Linux anyway, so I need the Windows install for that.

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    [–] tdawg@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    I know it's a meme but it's crazy to me that some people think the average person cares about computers at all (let alone what OS is running)

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    [–] eruchitanda@lemmy.world 75 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    But they still won't be able to remove all of the baked-in spyware.

    [–] atyaz@reddthat.com 47 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Try Ubuntu, you can uninstall the baked in spyware

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    [–] Hupf@feddit.de 69 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Time for Ubuntu to ship with a mandatory Edge installation

    [–] RmDebArc_5@lemmy.ml 27 points 1 year ago

    Don’t give them any ideas

    [–] Flaky@iusearchlinux.fyi 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    meanwhile, me on Arch: yay -S microsoft-edge-stable-bin

    [–] Honza@iusearchlinux.fyi 14 points 1 year ago

    Yeah, as if Arch was not bleeding edge enough.

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    [–] LainOfTheWired@lemy.lol 59 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    People have already proven they will put up with about anything Microsoft throws at them, so they were never going to switch anyway.

    Also you still can't uninstall the bootloader under windows.😆

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    [–] JCreazy@midwest.social 43 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    It's going to be one of those things where someone is either going to switch to Linux or they're not. Most people will take convenience over privacy.

    [–] PopOfAfrica@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Honestly, Windows isn't even that much more convenient. It's just what people are used to.

    Now that I'm used to Linux Windows makes me pull my hair out.

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    [–] yamapikariya@lemmyfi.com 13 points 1 year ago

    Funny. For me switching to Linux was actually a convenience and aesthetics over privacy ngl.

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    [–] vynlwombat@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    I'm not really concerned about getting more people to use Linux. Am I the only one?

    [–] JGrffn@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    I feel like I don't really care what my peers use, or what people in general use, but the more adoption linux desktop gets, the more people getting involved in community projects there are, as well as more bug reports and the like, so the sooner things get improved upon and the better they become.

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    [–] skygirl@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

    As a person who cares about the gaming ecosystem, I think it would be really healthy for Microsoft to not have full market dominance.

    They're busy making studio acquisitions which are gradually centralizing the market, which could become very problematic if they start taking anticompetitive approaches to distribution.

    More people on Linux means more pressure for software availability on Linux, and if people can just move over relatively easily that prevents Microsoft from going full corpo-digital-prison-hellscape.

    [–] Flumsy@feddit.de 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Well, more people on Linux means more software support.

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    [–] synapse1278@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Lets be honest, people don't switch to Linux because it's better, we switch because of the cute pinguin mascot !

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    [–] sebinspace@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Who gives a shit what other people use?

    [–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 17 points 1 year ago

    Too many Linux users do, unfortinuately.

    [–] wuphysics87@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Windows is made by a company that would make this change in some countries but not all countries. We are not free until we are all free. Some operating systems guarantee that. Others do not.

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    [–] Norgur@kbin.social 33 points 1 year ago

    It's a little naive to think that this was an incentive to use Linux for ppl in the first place.

    [–] ftbd@feddit.de 29 points 1 year ago

    Idk, the whole "Megacorp is forced to do reasonable thing, but will still only do so in regions where the law applies" should further encourage people to move away from all their crap.

    [–] tenchiken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Overnight, millions will suddenly somehow become European.

    I wonder if they will try IP based Geo enforcement? How long do you think before Rufus allows flipping the bit to force this globally on install?

    [–] Honza@iusearchlinux.fyi 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    No. A lot of people simply don't care about their browser enough to take any action, let alone to bypass geo-restrictions.

    [–] drcabbage@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago

    The people who do care have already switched to Linux.

    [–] JackSkellington@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Shouldn’t the same be applied to MacOS? There are a myriad of stupid apps impossible to uninstall. Maybe even safari

    [–] Dmian@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)

    While you can’t uninstall Safari, it doesn’t constantly discourage you to use other browsers like Edge does. Nor does Mac OS prevents you from installing competing apps.

    The bigger problem is iOS, but the EU already took care of that and we’ll be able to sideload apps on iOS pretty soon.

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    [–] kumatomic@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 1 year ago

    Don't worry, there's still plenty of reasons Windows sucks and they'll only make it worse.

    [–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    "Oh man, I'd love to use Linux because then I wouldn't have to have Edge installed!" - Nobody. Ever.

    People use Windows because it comes with the PC and it runs all their shit (maybe except some yellowing-beige and blue scanner from 1997) with no fucking about needed. They were never incentivised to use Linux. They don't know what an OS is, and more importantly, they don't care.

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    [–] PepeLivesMatter@lemmy.today 16 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    As someone who has has tried repeatedly for more than ten years to use Linux, Linux is already doing a good enough job at that without their help.

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    [–] XTornado@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    The year of Linux cancelled. /s

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    [–] orcrist@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago

    I disagree with the premise, but even if it's true that people stay with Windows because it sucks less, that's still a success story for Linux. External comparative pressure leading to more end user freedom. Think of where it could go next!

    [–] lntl@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 year ago

    What are the limits of this new law? Certainly state sponsored spyware are protected from this, for example

    [–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

    The overlap of people that will not remove the initial bloat (even if it's a button displayed prominently on first start) and people inclined to use Linux in the first place is not that great.

    [–] ZILtoid1991@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Edge isn't as bad nowadays, and it's not much more of a spyware than Google Chrome, the meme browser.

    [–] Sheeple@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Which still is pretty bad. Honestly we should avoid chromium.

    But as far as chromium is concerned, yeah Edge is pretty good. I used it until the anti adblock shenanigans

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