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[-] Perfide@reddthat.com 173 points 2 years ago

They gonna call Bernard "I got into politics because my extended family literally died in the holocaust" Sanders antisemitic now?

[-] fosforus@sopuli.xyz 49 points 2 years ago

“While Israel has the right to go after Hamas, Netanyahu’s right-wing extremist government does not have the right to wage almost total warfare against the Palestinian people,” the Vermont senator said in a statement.

Seems like his views on this are pretty much aligned with that of typical israelis.

[-] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 years ago

And yet that's the same view that has had people screaming about anti-semitism for the past month.

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[-] Adubya@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago

Senator Sanders is in lockstep with Biden & rest of Democratic caucus's view here. There is a big push not to lose the path for a two-state solution and to pause West Bank settlement expansion. Wouldn't be surprised if President Biden's friend Bernard consulted with him about this beforehand.

[-] Zoboomafoo@lemmy.world 28 points 2 years ago

It's almost like it's a complex problem with no easy solution

So was South Africa and the Native Americans and the racial relations in the US and countless other situations but we still try to inrpove them.

[-] Zoboomafoo@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

I'm not saying to ignore the problem, I'm saying that the solution won't fit in a tweet or a lemmy text box

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[-] fosforus@sopuli.xyz 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

No, come on, don't be like that. We can do this.

[-] Rakonat@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

If there is one thing I don't like about Lemmy (and social media in general) its that a majority of people can't grasp complex sitstuons or solutions and cling to the thing they dislike without consideration for everything else.

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[-] Drinvictus@discuss.tchncs.de 146 points 2 years ago

This man could have been the president

[-] Thteven@lemmy.world 81 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Not if the DNC had anything to do about it, and they did.

[-] spider 10 points 2 years ago

After all, they're part of The Big Club.

(NSFW - language)

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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 40 points 2 years ago

I voted for him, but I have a feeling his agenda would have gone nowhere thanks to the corporate ass-kissers in both parties in congress and the judiciary. Maybe we don't deserve social democracy.

[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago

I voted for him, but I have a feeling his agenda would have gone nowhere thanks to the corporate ass-kissers in both parties in congress and the judiciary. Maybe we don’t deserve social democracy.

Not with that attitude we don't.

[-] 4lan@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

that kind of defeatism guarantees that we will never have a morally upstanding president.

You are a part of a self-fulfilling prophecy. Sanders would not get everything he wants done in a term, but any progress is better than our current puppet presidents

[-] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago

Nah, tho. Young people didn’t vote in high enough numbers. Depressing. I voted Bernie.

[-] Esqplorer@lemmy.zip 29 points 2 years ago

I didn't. I was wrong. I'm sorry.

[-] KingJalopy@lemm.ee 31 points 2 years ago

At least you own it. That's progress.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Several million young prospective voters were prevented from voting by going to college in states that don't allow out of state resident voting and not being able to vote in their home states on a Tuesday.

Add the fact that colleges are typically critically underserved when it comes to voting infrastructure, leading to a requirement to stand in line for the equivalent of a full-time job working day and it's clear that it's not young people being too apathetic.

It's politicians ratfucking them almost as much as they ratfuck people of color and people of color have much better get out the vote infrastructure to counteract it than colleges do.

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[-] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 71 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

As usual, the voice of sanity.

As usual, he'll be declared unrealistic and unreasonable for it by his own lesser peers and party.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 56 points 2 years ago

Oh, centrists and trumpists are gonna identically hate this.

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[-] masquenox@lemmy.world 50 points 2 years ago

I have a better idea... why doesn't the US just stop funding murderous fascism everywhere period?

[-] dangblingus@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

Because being morally upstanding doesn't work when every other country is trying to outmaneuver you geopolitically.

[-] cecinestpasunbot@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 years ago

So maintaining global dominance is so important the US just has to enable war crimes and ethnic cleansing? That’s the logic of fascism.

[-] masquenox@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

Oh, poor, poor US... forced to be the most prolific funder and enabler of fascist terrorism in human history because somebody else twisted it's arm.

Poor, poor US.

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[-] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 39 points 2 years ago

How about just not giving Israel aid, period?

If its capable of launching a genocidal crusade, it must be developed and stable enough to not need our fucking purse strings holding it up.

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[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

We already have laws that prohibit giving military aid to genocidal regimes.

We're just ignoring them.

[-] MrSqueezles@lemm.ee 9 points 2 years ago

While Israel has the right to go after Hamas, Netanyahu’s right-wing extremist government does not have the right to wage almost total warfare against the Palestinian people

A nuanced view? Is that allowed?

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[-] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 8 points 2 years ago

That would be the place (the Senate) to do it, not the Presidency.

[-] TWeaK@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago

This just proves that Sanders is the biggest antisemite. /s

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