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Iran denies Trump's claims: 'We reject all negotiations – US has failed and Hormuz will remain closed' (www.ynetnews.com)

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Source for this article is Israeli news. Sharing because this is the the complete opposite of what has been said to us by american media the last few hours while the markets get manipulated. We will find out in the coming hours/days but figured to share what this other side is reporting

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[-] Jhex@lemmy.world 165 points 6 months ago

Iran has more credibility than the orange pedophile

[-] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 25 points 6 months ago

I would not at all go that far. Iran's regime is horrendous and they were murdering and abducting civilians by the thousands for the past year or two. They are just as in need of a propaganda win as fuckface.

Remember everyone: Just because one side is an asshole doesn't mean the other isn't one too.

[-] Sunforged@lemmy.ml 119 points 6 months ago

Credibility is not morality.

[-] flandish@lemmy.world 37 points 6 months ago

precisely. a point often forgotten or overlooked.

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[-] Jhex@lemmy.world 50 points 6 months ago

I am aware of everything you said... yet Iran STILL has more credibility than the child rapist pressy

I am not, AT ALL, saying Iran is not an asshole, that's just your strawman

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[-] Hubi@feddit.org 48 points 6 months ago

Every side in this conflict sucks, but I'd still believe the officials in Iran over the officials in the US. The American government is very obviously and methodically lying to our faces every single day and without shame. I don't see a reason to assume the same for Iran, even if they are terrible people.

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[-] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 44 points 6 months ago

Preposter said they have more credibility, not that they are less horrible. I feel that's an important distinction

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[-] Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus 23 points 6 months ago

Doesn't change the fact that Irans fucking war propaganda is more credible than the tweets of the President of the United States of America.

[-] Akh@lemmy.world 17 points 6 months ago

As someone else mentioned Iran is morally reprehensible but they haven’t been found lying so often like Israel and US.

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[-] moustachio@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago

America’s regime is also horrendous.

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[-] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 5 points 6 months ago

Chaotic Evil versus Neutral Evil. Neutrals do have higher credibility than chaotic.

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[-] homes@piefed.world 92 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Trump really screwed any attempts to end this war when he started it by dropping bombs while in the middle of peace negotiations. What a fucking idiot. not that he had any credibility to begin with, but now he has negative credibility.

[-] Tja@programming.dev 19 points 6 months ago

Plus... TACO

[-] homes@piefed.world 15 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Can’t taco out of a situation you weren’t really in in the first place. Remember, this guy had so little credibility to start with, Oman was negotiating for him, lol.

What a fucking loser and literally incredible idiot

[-] frustrated_phagocytosis@fedia.io 61 points 6 months ago

The markets reacting as if Trump's words are based in reality at all is astonishing.

[-] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 33 points 6 months ago

Vibes based economy

[-] Earthman_Jim@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 months ago

ie algorithm based.

[-] Doomsider@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago

This shows how bullshit and broken the system is.

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[-] finallymadeanaccount@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

Markets react if the CEO of a company gets the sniffles.

[-] Bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works 36 points 6 months ago

Maybe we could hand trump over to the IRGC for peace

[-] ZC3rr0r@piefed.ca 11 points 6 months ago

Now there's a peace negotiation tactic everyone can get behind.

[-] Earthman_Jim@lemmy.zip 10 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

First, I think Trump should send ICE to "secure" Kharg Island.

[-] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 6 months ago

Dream scenario tbh.

[-] kabe@lemmy.world 31 points 6 months ago

Iran be like

[-] bold_atlas@lemmy.world 16 points 6 months ago

[-] FahrenheitGhost@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

Nostalgia intensifies

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[-] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 16 points 6 months ago

Keep Hormuz close until The US and Israel pays reparations for all the damage they done, infrastructure and civilian lives, and all that infrastructure is up and running again.

[-] rwrwefwef@sh.itjust.works 13 points 6 months ago

Let's see how exactly Trump intends to chicken out of this one.

[-] daychilde@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago

Spoiler: All he does is say whatever he wants reality to be, denies ever having said anything different, and expects everyone to go along with it. It's his sole tactic.

[-] vga@sopuli.xyz 12 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

"Rooting for Iran even a little bit" was not on my bingo card a year ago.

I wonder if USA can recover from Trump. November should bring a change, but is it enough? Doesn't look great.

[-] rumba@lemmy.zip 5 points 6 months ago

All 'conspicuous' ballots will be seized

November will come and go

[-] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago

Iran:

1000003284

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 9 points 6 months ago

he did this to pump and dump oil stocks just before he announced it,.

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 9 points 6 months ago

Almost as if it's one big gambling grift.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cg547ljepvzo

[-] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 8 points 6 months ago

I’m just glad he didn’t end up bombing Iran again, thereby sending us back to the pre industrial era. I have little doubt that Iran would have fulfilled their threat against oil infrastructure.

[+] Jaberw0cky@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

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[-] 8oow3291d@feddit.dk 3 points 6 months ago

So fuck the US, but this is not good. This can create a huge economic crisis and food instability, which would create untold suffering among innocent poor people across the world.

You are allowed to rightfully criticize the US for this war, without applauding Iran sinking ships with fertilizer the world desperately needs to not starve.

[-] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago

To be perfectly frank, with the system we had set up, that was inevitable. It would have been better if it happened 40 years ago, better to happen now than in another 40 years.

Clearly, if one point of failure causes it to collapse within a month, the system was not stable. There was no other path but collapse of the global economy.

[-] MuskyMelon@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

He said warship, not cargo ship.

[-] 0x0@infosec.pub 4 points 6 months ago

A bit too on the nose to call us marines fertilizer no? Shit absolutely, but not fertilizer

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