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[-] Fishnoodle@lemmy.world 222 points 5 months ago

I mean... Yeah. Trump caved in quicker than the titan submersible

[-] IphtashuFitz@lemmy.world 46 points 5 months ago
[-] Cold_Brew_Enema@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago
[-] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 131 points 5 months ago

As part of the plan, the US has in principle agreed to lift all primary and secondary sanctions against Iran and to withdraw US combat forces from all bases in the region, the council said according to state media.

Yeah… none of this will happen. I hate Trump and this illegal war is abhorrent. That said, if you take Iranian state media at face value I have a bridge to sell you.

[-] Jhex@lemmy.world 100 points 5 months ago

That is a huge issue today... American state media and Iran state media are basically guaranteed to be lying.

If you add the complete capitulation of journalism in general, there is not a single source of information that can actually be trusted.

I guess we MAY see what actually happened based on what reality displays

[-] Triumph@fedia.io 15 points 5 months ago

Yeah, none of that is at all possible, but I have to hand it to Iran saying it. They know Trump just makes shit up, so they made some shit up. Now the US can confirm, deny, or be silent. Confirm? Win. Deny? Nobody believes the US anymore. Silence is weakness and/or confirmation.

[-] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 18 points 5 months ago

It's exactly a Trump negotiation tactic. Just state your wishlist as fact, let the other side sputter and deny, then call them names and walk all over them while they look weak and unreliable. Iran watched and learned.

[-] pivot_root@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

Or do one even better and stay silent while also threatening any media outlets that report the terms. Now you get weakness, confirmation, and lying all in one package with a ribbon bow on top.

[-] KnitWit@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago

My thoughts exactly. There are multiple points in the plan that I just can’t see as being tenable long-term. The readiness the US accepted it sounds like a delay to either get the stock market back up or for those Marines to get across the ocean. I doubt the ceasefire makes it the full two weeks.

[-] Soulg@ani.social 7 points 5 months ago

Unfortunately Iran is less untrustworthy than the US at this moment, even though they're both definitely lying

[-] sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz 6 points 5 months ago

The announcement must have came via ai Lego diss track. People seem pretty enamored with those

[-] justsomeguy@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago

Win the meme battle, win the war.

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[-] Skyrmir@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

To a degree it's already happened. US forces retreated from a lot of bases when they started getting drone attacks. So they'd have to actively move back to the Iranian border regions.

The sanctions and the rest will be a whole bigger thing that probably won't happen in full.

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[-] azimir@lemmy.ml 112 points 5 months ago

This whole debacle was a rousing success. The question is for whom. It wasn't a victory for the US citizens writ large. It wasn't a win for any NATO allies. It wasn't a win for the vast majority of the people in the world.

There's a few people/groups we can assume did win:

  • The wealthy: they were given insider trading info and made billions
  • Iran's leadership: they have come out regionally stronger
  • Israel's government: they got to genocide more Lebanese, Palestinians, Syrians, and Gazans under the cover of a regional war.
  • The inside circle in the executive branch that weren't outright fired

It's mostly an insider trading game at the expense of lives, money, and the US' sitting on the geopolitical stage. This is all part of the smash and grab stage of this presidency.

[-] mech@feddit.org 32 points 5 months ago

Also, no one is talking about the Epstein Files anymore.

[-] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

the what files? i too am completely distracted from the trump-epstein friendship files

[-] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 30 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

All the military weapon suppliers who now get to restock the used supply. I wouldn't be surprised if they pushed this as a way to funnel money to them.

[-] crusa187@lemmy.ml 19 points 5 months ago

Good analysis, agreed on all points.

[-] Typotyper@sh.itjust.works 8 points 5 months ago

Even the one about Iran's leadership. Like the top ones, the top contenders and generals who were all killed. Did they win.

[-] crusa187@lemmy.ml 14 points 5 months ago

Good point, and yeah no, they were murdered.

The state leadership did seem to have politically outmaneuvered the US and Israel, however. I think that was OP’s point. They definitely won the culture war and controlling the narrative…not hard considering they were not the aggressors.

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[-] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 52 points 5 months ago

No other nation on this planet could be harming America more than Donald Trump and the Republican party.

They are traitors. Plain and simple. They are our enemy.

[-] Squizzy@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

They will 25th him to have VP as potus for the next election. Incumbent advantage.

[-] Peruvian_Skies@sh.itjust.works 42 points 5 months ago

Ah, TACO Tuesday.

[-] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 25 points 5 months ago

i thought Iran cancelled this ceasefire and the Straits of Hormuz are closed again, because the shithead Israelis bombed and murdered more Lebanese.

[-] maniacalmanicmania@aussie.zone 14 points 5 months ago

Posts have a timestamp. This post is probably older than the more recent news about the massacres in Lebanon.

[-] 13igTyme@piefed.social 14 points 5 months ago

Something something art of the deal.

[-] G3NI5Y5@europe.pub 14 points 5 months ago

Failed business man surprisingly fails as president. What a surprise.

[-] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

"He'll run it like his businesses."

Yep.

[-] Damage@feddit.it 12 points 5 months ago
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[-] aramis87@fedia.io 12 points 5 months ago

Iran also gets to charge every tanker that goes through the Strait $2,000,000 (they'll split it with Oman, who has the other side of the Strait), in order to rebuild everything that got bombed, but I'm sure that toll will go on pretty much forever. So gas supplies may slowly start to recover, but prices won't. We're going to be paying higher prices for gas, energy, any goods that need to be moved, anything made of plastic, and anything that needs fertilizer to grow, for a long time.

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[-] CurbCuts@lemmy.ca 11 points 5 months ago

"United States to accept in principle its 10-point plan"

The "in principle" is importent here. Saying Iran won at this point is like saying you got a good deal before you finish haggling the price. Plus one of the points relies on Israel stopping it's attacks on Lebanon. Unless the US is willing to force Israel to stop, I doubt they will. Israel says" the ceasfire dosn't apply to Lebanon".

[-] baines@piefed.social 3 points 5 months ago

even that is an obvious victory for Iran

either US is a lier or unable to even enforce a deal or Iran actually gets what it asked for

[-] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago

Went about as well as one would expect when a war is run by two massively-unqualified TV show hosts who paid smarter people to write their term papers.

[-] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago

This is the best possible outcome, and humiliating for the USA

... it's too good to be true, in my opinion

[-] Krauerking@lemy.lol 9 points 5 months ago

Have you heard that the straight of Hormuz is closed again after the latest round of bombing again?

They will get everything they want.

[-] yesman@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

My prediction is that it'll come out that the Trump Administration was negotiating with Ahmed Chalabi the whole time.

[-] SwingingTheLamp@piefed.zip 3 points 5 months ago

Oh, wow, there's a deep cut! Love it.

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[-] Sanguine@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 5 months ago

Art of the deal

[-] gigachad@piefed.social 5 points 5 months ago

As much as Trump is the most stupid person alive, I don't believe any word of this. Of course every side claims total victory. It's pretty clear the US lost in the long run and this war was a total disaster, but what is claimed here will never happen.

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