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submitted 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) by ZombieCyborgFromOuterSpace@piefed.ca to c/linux@programming.dev

What are your thoughts?

The author raises some good questions about the licensing of the core utils.

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[-] uuj8za@piefed.social 31 points 5 months ago

Sounds like an AI SlopTuber.

[-] einlander@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

Indeed it is.

Aw crap. 😓

[-] definitemaybe@lemmy.ca 13 points 5 months ago

I think that the core idea, that Ubuntu is taking risks, shipping an LTS with major changes, is concerning. New core utils that don't have feature parity, pipewire as a snap, a single-digit-days-old kernel (which has major changes to scheduling that cause known major regressions with some major software until they get updated), a new sudo implementation that may not be as secure (?), etc. Plus, jumping the hardware req to 6 GB and removing a GUI app for non-snap apps...

Just more evidence that Ubuntu isn't a good recommendation anymore.

I'd go a step further, and say it's a bad idea to recommend any Ubuntu-based distros. Yes, that means Mint.

[-] sbeak@sopuli.xyz 3 points 5 months ago

I'd go a step further, and say it's a bad idea to recommend any Ubuntu-based distros. Yes, that means Mint.

Note that Mint released a Debian-based spin (LMDE)! Pretty interesting I think

[-] mrbigmouth502@piefed.zip 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I think Mint should ditch Ubuntu and go all-in on LMDE.

Yep. Sadly.

I don't think I'll have a choice but to move to another distro. I don't even know what to recommend to my parents now if they want to move to Linux. Maybe Debian? Ugh...

[-] Tempy@programming.dev 2 points 5 months ago

Fedora, I think, is pretty good for a normal user.

[-] Feyter@programming.dev 6 points 5 months ago

I think there is a lot that the author is right about.

However, removing X11 season was a decision of the Gnome Team not the Ubuntu team and I completely respect this.

Yes you can keep shipping it with the X11 optio, but someone has to maintain it. The gnome project has only limited resource so it's either removed or an unstable mess... removing in this case is always the better option IMHO.

I think the core takeaways from all this is, we (as a community) should definitely no longer recommend Ubuntu as the default distro for newcomer to the Linux world.

[-] hobata@lemmy.ml 4 points 5 months ago

Well, the worst Ubuntu release was 16.04, where snaps were introduced as a default system component. His rants are a bit too late. The only thing that turns 26.04 into shit is shipping PipeWire as a snap. Most of his other expressed thoughts aren’t problems at all. Some are just questionable design choices. In fact, some are very welcome, especially the new core utilities being released under the MIT license.

[-] 0x0@lemmy.zip 2 points 5 months ago

especially the new core utilities being released under the MIT license.

Nice troll.

[-] khleedril@cyberplace.social 0 points 5 months ago

@ZombieCyborgFromOuterSpace This headline is saying a lot given how many bad releases they have made.

The only really bad release so far was 24.04 with introduction of Snaps and installing Snap packages when using apt.

Any release before that was perfectly fine.

[-] khleedril@cyberplace.social 0 points 5 months ago

@ZombieCyborgFromOuterSpace The details are faded in my mind now, but the release which brought the Unity UI was pretty derided.

There were still alternatives. You still had choice. There was Ubuntu Gnome, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, etc.

Now no matter which one you pick, you get Snaps shoved down your throat.

[-] 0x0@lemmy.zip -2 points 5 months ago

It's made by Canonical, a for-profit company, where's the surprise?
Have they gone public yet?

I mean, you can say the same about Fedora and RedHat and OpenSUSE and SUSE, no?

[-] 0x0@lemmy.zip 2 points 5 months ago

RedHat for sure, especially as of late, dunno about the others.

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