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Mark confronts his darkest fears as his life changes forever.

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[–] KaChilde@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Bit late to the game, but really had to say this.

I was on board with the Nolan redemption this season, up until this episode.

Nolan killed thousands of people. Levelled a city. Called Debbie his pet. Left the planet and had a child with another woman, then dumped the child with her to raise.

Debbie owes Nolan nothing, and the scene of him telling her off for not forgiving him is just SO abusive. In that scene, Nolan was being a manipulative asshole. If he was really remorseful, Debbie’s forgiveness would be on her terms. Instead he continues to put himself in her way, figuratively and literally, and tells her that she will forgive him because he knows best.

Having experienced coercive control in relationships, I lost any respect that Nolan had clawed back this season. Cecil is right, Earth is not Nolan’s therapy couch.

Rest of the episode was really hard to watch after that scene. Nolan kept acting like an indignant child because people on Earth didn’t appreciate that he looks sad sometimes when he thinks about all the murders he did.

But the show is already pushing Debbie back into the arms of her abuser (again literally when she goes to the ship). They already split her up from Paul off screen, who then insinuates that she belongs in Nolan’s world. And I’m sure his inevitable noble sacrifice at the conclusion will make a hero of the abuser who demanded forgiveness from his victims to the bitter end. Disgusting.

[–] LambdaRX@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 months ago
[–] LambdaRX@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

There was almost no action but only dialogues and drama and it was glorious 50 minutes. They nailed Mark's PTSD, and opening scene was much more fleshed out and probable therefore more impactful than in comics. Thragg's appearance has also vastly benefited from all those additional scenes. Mark's choice cements him as a full blooded person, rather than just another god superhero.

All Nolan's scenes were great. He has clearly changed and regrets his choices, but also still selfishly wants forgiveness. He seems not to grasp how much death and suffering has he caused among common people, but at least he is on a good path.

[–] AntiBullyRanger@ani.social 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Cecil should have handled that conversation better.Therapy is anywhere one can administer it. Earth should be the solar systems’ only therapy couch.
But absolute 🫶 my fav. HeroineWhomever is writing TV’s best Mom of the universe, deserves a bonus.

[–] MimicJar@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

I don't think Nolan is selfish in wanting forgiveness. Wanting forgiveness is a natural thing. Look at Mark and how he treats Nolan. I can't say Mark has forgiven him completely, but he defends Nolan from time to time.

I expect part of next season will involve Debbie and him getting along better. As Nolan said, Debbie wants to forgive, to give him a second chance.

Cecil? He's pragmatic. He doesn't have to forgive.

Earth? I don't know. Especially if the Thragg plan becomes public.

[–] FirmDistribution@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

bro, Kregg got a girlfriend in the first 30 minutes 😭

[–] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Really makes earth look bad, no way it would have taken this long on other planets

[–] MimicJar@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Diabolical.

Everyone asking if the war is over, looking for the war to be over, can't it just come to an end!

Thragg: No, and it never will be.