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[–] ekky@sopuli.xyz 117 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

So, in short:

  • Google is not killing ad blockers, but merely chopping off both legs and arms in the name of security.
  • ublock Origin is implementing a lite version for chromium browsers, supposedly being pretty decent given the circumstances.
  • Old Manifest V2 extensions will be disabled in June 2024 and Manifest V2 will be removed in June 2025.
  • Firefox is Firefox.
  • Privacy and security focused chromium based browsers will have to implement proper native ad blocking.
[–] Kumabear@lemmy.world 105 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I am now using Firefox…

I mean I was using Firefox before this, but I also am now as well you know.

[–] lando55@lemmy.world 58 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I used to use Firefox.

I still do, but I used to too.

[–] Alto@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago
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[–] FlavoredButtHair@lemmy.world 91 points 1 year ago (1 children)

People are fighting ads and switching browsers.

[–] LWD@lemm.ee 33 points 1 year ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)
[–] teft@startrek.website 111 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Switching to what? Firefox. I don’t see the problem here. Install Firefox and forget those monopolistic enshitifying fucks.

[–] LWD@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)
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[–] Aceticon@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

I went from Netscape to Mozzila and from Mozilla to Firefox and, guess what... my browser never fucked me up in the name of maximizing corporate profits.

Google was already a wholly untrustworth Ad Company With A Tech Arm back when they invented Chrome, and shit like this was already back then a question of WHEN, not IF.

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[–] ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

For anyone interested, as of November 2023:

Web browsers using Gecko (Firefox's engine): GNU IceCat, Waterfox, K-Meleon, Lunascape, Portable Firefox, Conkeror, Classilla, TenFourFox. Edit: and Fennec

Web browsers using the Goanna engine (which is a fork of Gecko): Pale Moon, Basilisk.

Flow is a web browser with its own proprietary browser engine.

The other active engines listed are: WebKit (Apple's engine), and Blink (Google's engine, which they forked off of WebKit, and which is used for Chrome, Chromium, and countless other browsers).

[–] dojan@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

I'd no idea there's a browser called Conkeror. That's prertty funny since WebKit was based off of KHTML used in KDE's Konqueror browser.

[–] viking@infosec.pub 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fennec is also using Gecko.

[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 3 points 1 year ago
[–] wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I use firefox, but Id never head of these alternatives.

Anyone who does have reviews? Pros, cons, reasons to use them beside variety?

[–] krakenx@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Pale Moon still supports the even older extension model. I used it briefly until my extensions got updated to the newer format. I still kinda miss the old theme engine.

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[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Every other Google Chromium fork will need to maintain an increasingly complex set of changes to the Google repository

Yet infinitely easier than building a new browser from the bottom up

[–] LWD@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (14 children)
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[–] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 77 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Here's what happening to me: I went to Firefox.

[–] elbarto777@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, you say that, but this is what happened to me: I went to Firefox.

[–] Snowcano@startrek.website 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I, too, happened to me: Firefox.

[–] Cralex@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was using Firefox back when it was cool. And now it'll be cool again.

[–] glorious_albus@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I used Firefox before chrome even was a thing and never moved away. Fuck chrome.

[–] elbarto777@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I briefly lived in the dark side of IE6 because AOL fucked over the Netscape browser so badly. But then I came back like the prodigal son when Firefox (then Firebird) came along.

[–] legios@aussie.zone 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah I remember IE5 and NS4, as well as the Firebird/Phoenix/Firefox naming joys back in the day.

If you want to blow your brains out, try getting XHTML 1.1 working in IE6. It is indeed possible if you modify the XHTML DTD. Interestingly it'd render shit so much better since it'd use MSXML instead of Trident as the rendering engine. Sadly it would add about 400k to the page since it needed to load a custom DTD...

[–] glorious_albus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're an even older user than me then lol. I think it was '08 or '09 when I started using the internet.

[–] elbarto777@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We're all in this together, brother.

[–] glorious_albus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Hell yeah! They can take Firefox out of my cold dead hands.

[–] guacupado@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I went to Firefox when Chrome had that huge memory leak issue.

[–] LazaroFilm@lemmy.world 60 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Thanks to Lemmy, I’m browsing on Firefox on Linux Arch…

[–] Evkob@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm glad to know I'm not the only one who went on a bit of an open-source mania because of all the Linux and FOSS nerds on here.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

It's a great lifestyle, been a Linux main for about 15+ years, or around half my life so far. Highly recommend it to anyone who thinks it's fun to use good software.

[–] badmemes@feddit.de 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] LazaroFilm@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] elbarto777@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Did you install Arch on your mac?

[–] SaintWacko@midwest.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hm, should I try switching my old Surface Pro 3 from PopOS to Arch?

[–] LazaroFilm@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Try Hanna Montana first.

[–] ArugulaZ@kbin.social 20 points 1 year ago

Google's ads can lick my nads.

[–] holdthecheese@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Interesting that article comes to the conclusion that uBlockOrigin Lite is basically as effective as the original and works on the new Manifest v3.

[–] miridius@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I'm glad you read the article, since it seems like nobody else in the comment section has!

[–] pirat@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

When I went to read the comments of this post, and for some reason it took 10 sec for them to show up in my client, I thought of Google...

[–] sulsaz@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

I am forever grateful for my father having Firefox installed on the xp hand-me-down that became my first computer

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